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Mr Twisty · 03-02-2012, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Chip Foose said it pretty well, quoting his father Sam Foose:

"It's what you learn AFTER you know EVERYTHING, that's really important"...

Think I'll add that to my sig...

Don't know Sam, but I already like him a lot

I can't think of a single pro racer that can say, "I've been driving fast cars for 20 years and never crashed."

JusticePete · 03-02-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Gentleman of the houze, please feel free to jump in...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=206693&page=3

Focus on z28racr post's if you will.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I gotta say, the number of morons on this site with <500 posts insulting and trying to pick fights with members who have been here for years with thousands of posts is absolutely ridiculous.

Closed

I can't be on the forum 24/7. Special request to the Mod Squad: Please call me before you close the next thread

ShnOmac · 03-02-2012, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Closed

I can't be on the forum 24/7. Special request to the Mod Squad: Please call me before you close the next thread

JP is on the hunt!

LOWDOWN · 03-02-2012, 11:46 AM

Pedro, bein' down Texas-way, got any coil-over RATTLERS you could FEDEX to a few folks?! Now those would be "shocking"...

...some genuine Justice, Pete!

Number 3 · 03-02-2012, 12:17 PM

Had a lot to add to that thread and was sad to see it closed.

For ABS I challenge anyone to brake in a shorter distance including dry pavement. I've seen tests with famous drivers and they were about equal.

If I'm not mistaken ABS and ESC are required BY LAW on all motor vehicles. Check FMVSS 105 and 126.

Statistics show ESC is a huge benefit for roll over mitigation.

The government has clear requirements on turning these features off. This is not a GM edict it is from the government.

Kudos to anyone who can out drive and outbrake the sensors and electrons but from what I know those guys get paid to do it.

JusticePete · 03-02-2012, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

JP is on the hunt!

I could use a a little street relief and I am too mature to start a bar fight. Who am I kidding? I'll never be that mature

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Pedro, bein' down Texas-way, got any coil-over RATTLERS you could FEDEX to a few folks?! Now those would be "shocking"...

...some genuine Justice, Pete!

No. No, you have Pedders confused with the other brands that rattle

Pedders parts don't rattle, but they do bite hard

JusticePete · 03-02-2012, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

Has a lot to add to that thread and was sad to see it closed.

For ABS I challenge anyone to brake in a shorter distance including dry pavement. I've seen tests with famous drivers and they were about equal.

If I'm not mistaken ABS and ESC are required BY LAW on all motor vehicles. Check FMVSS 105 and 126.

Statistics show ESC is a huge benefit for roll over mitigation.

The government has clear requirements on turning these features off. This is not a GM edict it is from the government.

Kudos to anyone who can out drive and outbrake the sensors and electrons but from what I know those guys get paid to do it.

Nah, you and I half drunk drive better on a cold wet day without the nannies, because we are real men.

FenwickHockey65 · 03-02-2012, 12:24 PM

Real men don't need no damn ABS.

OldScoolCamaro · 03-02-2012, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Nah, you and I half drunk drive better on a cold wet day without the nannies, because we are real men.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Real men don't need no damn ABS.

..as much as I get targeted for saying...well you know back in the day...yadda yadda ....you guys are right...LOL

Mr Twisty · 03-02-2012, 12:52 PM

Well... it's one thing to try to out brake ABS on a test bed..... it's a WHOLE nuther animal when when someone spins out right in front of you, especially on slick roads.

Mr Twisty · 03-02-2012, 12:54 PM

When computer control first hit F1, Ayrton Senna accused them of cheating... and they were.

Blizzard · 03-02-2012, 01:09 PM

I may have only been driving for just over 10 years now but i have learned a few things.

1. When pushing a car (or truck most times in my case) to the edge, it doesn't take long to go over and lose control.

2. When not pushing the car (or truck most times in my case) to the edge, it doesn't take long for something to happen and lose control.

I try to always keep these in mind and it helps me remember to buckle up and be alert because too many people won't be.

Number 3 · 03-02-2012, 02:53 PM

Well I think in some cases this is simply folks soooo convinced of their own skills and equally ignorant of the speed and capability of the technology that they prove it to them selves by pushing the button and. Omplaining that they are forced to do so.

GMs algorithms are so good especially on the performance. Ads you really have to on the edge to know they are even there and when and if you have the nannies invading you have a lot of other problems.

The nannies will never cause you a problem. It will help you prevent one.

Number 3 · 03-02-2012, 02:53 PM

Well I think in some cases this is simply folks soooo convinced of their own skills and equally ignorant of the speed and capability of the technology that they prove it to them selves by pushing the button and complaining that they are forced to do so.

GMs algorithms are so good especially on the performance cars that you really have to on the edge to know they are even there and when and if you have the nannies invading you have a lot of other problems.

The nannies will never cause you a problem but will help you prevent one.

03-02-2012, 12:17 PM	#8307
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,307 View My Garage	Had a lot to add to that thread and was sad to see it closed. For ABS I challenge anyone to brake in a shorter distance including dry pavement. I've seen tests with famous drivers and they were about equal. If I'm not mistaken ABS and ESC are required BY LAW on all motor vehicles. Check FMVSS 105 and 126. Statistics show ESC is a huge benefit for roll over mitigation. The government has clear requirements on turning these features off. This is not a GM edict it is from the government. Kudos to anyone who can out drive and outbrake the sensors and electrons but from what I know those guys get paid to do it. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley Last edited by Number 3; 03-02-2012 at 12:42 PM.

03-02-2012, 12:24 PM	#8310
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	Real men don't need no damn ABS. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

03-02-2012, 12:52 PM	#8312
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,763	Well... it's one thing to try to out brake ABS on a test bed..... it's a WHOLE nuther animal when when someone spins out right in front of you, especially on slick roads. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin lib·er·ty /ˈlibərdē/ noun 1. the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views

03-02-2012, 12:54 PM	#8313
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,763	When computer control first hit F1, Ayrton Senna accused them of cheating... and they were. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin lib·er·ty /ˈlibərdē/ noun 1. the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views

03-02-2012, 01:09 PM	#8314
Blizzard Searching for the truth Drives: 85 K-10, 13 1LE Join Date: May 2008 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 636 View My Garage	I may have only been driving for just over 10 years now but i have learned a few things. 1. When pushing a car (or truck most times in my case) to the edge, it doesn't take long to go over and lose control. 2. When not pushing the car (or truck most times in my case) to the edge, it doesn't take long for something to happen and lose control. I try to always keep these in mind and it helps me remember to buckle up and be alert because too many people won't be. __________________ 2013 1LE 1SS RS TPW 4/29

03-02-2012, 11:46 AM	#8306
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	Pedro, bein' down Texas-way, got any coil-over RATTLERS you could FEDEX to a few folks?! Now those would be "shocking"... ...some genuine Justice, Pete!

03-02-2012, 02:53 PM	#8315
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,307 View My Garage	Well I think in some cases this is simply folks soooo convinced of their own skills and equally ignorant of the speed and capability of the technology that they prove it to them selves by pushing the button and. Omplaining that they are forced to do so. GMs algorithms are so good especially on the performance. Ads you really have to on the edge to know they are even there and when and if you have the nannies invading you have a lot of other problems. The nannies will never cause you a problem. It will help you prevent one. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

03-02-2012, 02:53 PM	#8316
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,307 View My Garage	Well I think in some cases this is simply folks soooo convinced of their own skills and equally ignorant of the speed and capability of the technology that they prove it to them selves by pushing the button and complaining that they are forced to do so. GMs algorithms are so good especially on the performance cars that you really have to on the edge to know they are even there and when and if you have the nannies invading you have a lot of other problems. The nannies will never cause you a problem but will help you prevent one. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley Last edited by Number 3; 03-02-2012 at 03:09 PM.

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