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[radz28]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

Driving down the street and blow the engine and SC due to an unforseen error= 10 grand, reinstallation of new engine, etc, 2 grand.

Now if you had a factory Z28..that would be covered under warranty and it wouldnt cost you a single time to replace the engine.

That, and for those people who are fanatics, mod'ing and SS does not make it a Z28.

Originally Posted by nards444

there are plenty of places that do quality work and no issues with their mods. Next question is with a SC what kind of warranty is GM going to offer on that, im assuming the standard warranty. But am curious as to what kind of clauses are in there.

I can tell you when I thought I had an issue with my turbo on my diesel the dealer got very defensive about it and started talking jibberish as how this fix was related to the warranty. ended up only being one of the rubber connectors on it. I wouldnt be so sure the warrany is going to be Ironclad. My friend has a roush mustang from the factory and they have gave him the run around when he had some issues.

So true. It would certainly be less of a PITA warrantying through GM though on a stock Z28 rather than a mod'd SS, obviously. I'm interested in learning more about what mod's dealers are more-or-less worried about nowadays, like CAI, exhaust, etc. I'm sure any computer tuning is out, but as soon as you crack that hood, you can be potentially be tampering with your warranty. I can't say I blame GM, so long as the failures have nothing to do with the mod's - that's where things can get gray and dealers and GM can get some bad reviews.

It will certainly be easier to go fast with the fastest factory car - whether that's Z28 or not, I don't know until GM says so

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by nards444

1SS MSRP= 31 grand
stage 3 blower from SLP= 10 grand
installation= 2 grand

= more HP and for 8-10 grand cheaper.

The Z28 will come somewhat loaded from the factory (like the GT500 and the CTS-V). Comparing a somewhat loaded Z28 to a stripper SS with cloth interior and no AC is not a valid comparison. If you only care about going fast in a straight line for cheap, that is not the definition of 'top of the line' in todays' world.

[clg_98ta]

Edmunds is guessing that the 2012 Z28 will list at $50000 (50850 with freight). In fact, it say, "Pricing and Specs on these pages are Edmunds.com expectations"

Personally, I doubt the MSRP will matter... it'll be a long time before people can buy one for anywhere near MSRP. I'll bet the first ones sell for $80K, maybe even over $100K. Price isn't really the issue for folks like Jay Leno...

[nards444]

Originally Posted by radz28

That, and for those people who are fanatics, mod'ing and SS does not make it a Z28.





So true. It would certainly be less of a PITA warrantying through GM though on a stock Z28 rather than a mod'd SS, obviously. I'm interested in learning more about what mod's dealers are more-or-less worried about nowadays, like CAI, exhaust, etc. I'm sure any computer tuning is out, but as soon as you crack that hood, you can be potentially be tampering with your warranty. I can't say I blame GM, so long as the failures have nothing to do with the mod's - that's where things can get gray and dealers and GM can get some bad reviews.

It will certainly be easier to go fast with the fastest factory car - whether that's Z28 or not, I don't know until GM says so

I more interested on what the warranty will be for the Z-28? Like i said above we will see what is offered. Face it you put a charger on a car whether the factory does it or a shop, your asking for problems, and charger will wear your engine out faster than without one.

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by nards444

I more interested on what the warranty will be for the Z-28? Like i said above we will see what is offered. Face it you put a charger on a car whether the factory does it or a shop, your asking for problems, and charger will wear your engine out faster than without one.

LSA=built for boost
LS3=not

LSA=Full factory coverage as long as everything is stock
LS3 with boost= What coverage? Ha ha!

[nards444]

there has been rumor its going to be the LS3 with a SC

[fbodfather]

hhhmmmmm.


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(sorry -- did not have time to read thru this thread - but trust me - pricing is the LAST thing we do -- )

[PYROLYSIS]

Guess that settles it.

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by nards444

1SS MSRP= 31 grand
stage 3 blower from SLP= 10 grand
installation= 2 grand

= more HP and for 8-10 grand cheaper.

Forgot suspension and braking mods to steer and stop said "= more HP"

[nards444]

Originally Posted by Banshee

Forgot suspension and braking mods to steer and stop said "= more HP"

true but the way I look at it we dont know what this car is going to be, the discussion is on price. Until we find out whats on it throwing out parts and cost analysis is probably more of a game then reality. But we are saying the car will cost any where from 50-55k minus tax title and dealer mark up. What some of our saying is that for cheaper we can probably get the same hp, suspension mods, and probably for the same price we can actually get something that is faster. If you look around these threads not a whole lot of people that are willing to throw down 55k for a camaro.

[35th02ss]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

hhhmmmmm.


www.wejustmadeitup.com

(.....not to be confused with www.wejustpulleditoutofour#ss.net"


(sorry -- did not have time to read thru this thread - but trust me - pricing is the LAST thing we do -- )

[nards444]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

hhhmmmmm.


www.wejustmadeitup.com

(.....not to be confused with www.wejustpulleditoutofour#ss.net"


(sorry -- did not have time to read thru this thread - but trust me - pricing is the LAST thing we do -- )

True but im assuming pricing and marketing has to go into your build and what is GM's goal or plan is. How many units do you plan on producing, will it be limited or will you produce as many as the demand? All of those are things that I would think go into a build. Face it GM will not sell a ton of units if a Camaro cost 50+, and maybe that is your plan. Im sure you had focus groups and what not to determine price range, I doubt you handed the enginers a blank slate and said look make it cost whatever. I applaud you on the pricing of the SS and look where it has gotten GM.

Honestly I think GM is going to beat the Shelby in price with a sticker of 45 and I think that would be the best move, now sure will some diehards be upset that they cant tell people they spent 50k on a camaro, but I think for that price you can get something with more hp and better handling for sure.

[Tech]

Originally Posted by lets_go_bills

The Z28 is gonna be awesome and well worth the $50,000 or so it will cost, IMO.

the only way it'd be worth 50k is if it was better then a vette. if not then why buy something that cost more and isn't better?

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by nards444

true but the way I look at it we dont know what this car is going to be, the discussion is on price. Until we find out whats on it throwing out parts and cost analysis is probably more of a game then reality. But we are saying the car will cost any where from 50-55k minus tax title and dealer mark up. What some of our saying is that for cheaper we can probably get the same hp, suspension mods, and probably for the same price we can actually get something that is faster. If you look around these threads not a whole lot of people that are willing to throw down 55k for a camaro.

I agree with you....

Nobody knows what the Z will entail...speculation.

But I would bet my money on the engineering and testing on a 50-60k Camaro versus buying a 2SS, S/C, upgraded brakes, suspension, exhaust and tuning. I have priced out upgrading the entire drivetrain including a Magnuson, CAI, beefed up halfshafts, brakes, exhaust, tightening steering and suspension...to the tune of upwards of 20k. Added to a $37k SS...is alot. Yea, you have a personalized car with alot of time and effort, but is the car tuned to it's true potential? And I am not even touching cost for improvements to the transmission and clutch.

Sure if you were into that aspect and had the time, money and resources to build a comparable 2SS to compete and or beat a Z (if indeed coming out) You still have potential warranty issues...blah blah blah...

I myself loved the thought of building a Z replica out of my SS with the knowledge of Livernois, Pedders and the guys on this forum. The other benefit was the fact I could invest and save and upgrade over a period of time and not have the need to have $50-60k "right now".

Then I look at how happy I am with the SS (save rear gear ratio) and expect the Z, if indeed coming to fruition, well worth the money for the engineering aspect of many people at GM. Yea, it's horsepower and torque (building on own), but the Z will be more than that...matched engineered complimentary components, styling, performance...

So off my soapbox...

The price? Whatever it is, I am sure GM will have the Z's price (so rumored) aligned with what SLP, Tom Henry, Lingenfelter....and others are offering...

Possibly less..