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woodside783 · 02-12-2011, 11:52 AM

what octane is safe in the 416, 93 or 110

CC Performance · 02-12-2011, 11:57 AM

Well we build it for the fuel your going to use so 91 is fine

woodside783 · 02-12-2011, 05:07 PM

ok thanks cant wait to start this build

S-eatin-grin · 02-12-2011, 05:40 PM

I've finally talked my wife into letting me get the 416 stroker...essentially told her that she was right...that I was an idiot for getting the supercharger without reading more and knowing the risk. (Think she liked the part about me being and idiot and her being right) Told her that if I don't do it I may end up blowing the motor (which is the truth)and it will cost even more to fix. So now my biggest hurdle is figuring out the least expensive way to way to get my motor out and shortblock stripped down to send to CC performance...the shortblock and parts price isn't so bad, it's the labor that kills you! Damn I wish I had a lift and all the tools needed! I know you told me before that shipping the bare shortblock out to you is only about $150. Does the completed shortblock price include free shipping? If not..what would the cost be to ship it to 20870?

CC Performance · 02-12-2011, 05:53 PM

I'll get the cost on shipping Monday, no it doesn't include crate and freight, But it shouldn't be to bad especially if we ship to a business.

JM10 · 02-13-2011, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S-eatin-grin

I've finally talked my wife into letting me get the 416 stroker...essentially told her that she was right...that I was an idiot for getting the supercharger without reading more and knowing the risk. (Think she liked the part about me being and idiot and her being right) Told her that if I don't do it I may end up blowing the motor (which is the truth)and it will cost even more to fix. So now my biggest hurdle is figuring out the least expensive way to way to get my motor out and shortblock stripped down to send to CC performance...the shortblock and parts price isn't so bad, it's the labor that kills you! Damn I wish I had a lift and all the tools needed! I know you told me before that shipping the bare shortblock out to you is only about $150. Does the completed shortblock price include free shipping? If not..what would the cost be to ship it to 20870?

Which SC pulley are you using? (3.25")
Are you going to use an agressive cam?

Please post your results....Im considering doing the same (even the excuse to the wife

)

JM

S-eatin-grin · 02-13-2011, 08:45 AM

Right now I 'm using the stock edelbrock sc pulley with I think is 3.5" and am at 7lbs boost. I will be adding going to 3.25" pulley LPE dual pump, 85 lb injectors and a blower cam...probably the JRE or the ZR1 cam with beefed up valvetrain in addition to the 416 ci stroker. I'm not expecting to go much over 600rwhp. keeping hte stock heads and want a conservative tune. It's a beast already! The compromise with the wife though is that I don't do it until I've saved up for it. Complete suspension upgrade next month lready paid for. So in the meanwhile I'm doing the JRE feul rail upgrade as a band-aid for my concerns.

LSX-80MM · 02-13-2011, 09:46 AM

416 with FI...awh you will LOVE..........If you like chest compressions

Heliwrench · 02-13-2011, 04:17 PM

If you really want to get the discussion going on this comparison you could talk about a few other issues.. Lost boost pressure when shifting, and IAT related timing losses…

Remember… we don't race dyno graphs.

woodside783 · 02-13-2011, 05:11 PM

i have the money for the parts just not the money for the labor yet

incon3037r · 02-19-2011, 03:24 AM

Are these hp numbers on 91oct and stock equipment or is it required to have CAI, LTH and catback exhaust to make these numbers.

CC Performance · 02-19-2011, 09:20 AM

cai and lt's should be in place first

incon3037r · 02-20-2011, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Performance

cai and lt's should be in place first

ok, thanks

CC Performance · 03-14-2011, 05:28 PM

The price of the E-Force jumps to $6995 on may 1st.. This price of this package will stay the same so then we are making more power for less money than the E-Force and Maggy. We offer both the Maggy and the E-force as well, I just happen to feel this engine deal is more for your money....... because it is.

02-13-2011, 09:46 AM	#78
LSX-80MM Ghostly Unknown Drives: Silver Ice 2010 SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Glen St Mary,Fla. Posts: 483	416 with FI...awh you will LOVE..........If you like chest compressions __________________ TS416,GMPPLSX-LS3 6 Bolt Heads,Custom 80mmComp Turbo,ID850 Injectors, Lonnies Twin Pump Setup,Level 3 4L80E,DSS,3in Magnaflow Exhaust,CoolingMist Meth,RX Dual Catch Can,InnovateWB,Aeroforce Interceptor,AEM Truboost Controller,matte black CF5 Forgestars.700rwhp/712rwtrq

02-13-2011, 04:17 PM	#79
Heliwrench Drives: 2010 Black 1SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Langley BC Posts: 666	If you really want to get the discussion going on this comparison you could talk about a few other issues.. Lost boost pressure when shifting, and IAT related timing losses… Remember… we don't race dyno graphs. __________________ 2010 Black 1SS LS3 M6 Power: Kook's 1 7/8" Long Tubes and 3" Exhaust, Injen Full Length CAI, Jannetty Tune Drivetrain: MGW Short Shifter, Street Slayer Twin Clutch, DSS 1 Piece Aluminum Driveshaft, DSS 1000HP Axles, BMR Pro and Delrin Diff Bushings Suspension: BMR Trailing Arms and Bushings, FE6 Swaybar Conversion With Pedders 27mm Front and 32mm Rear ZL1 Swaybars and Links Chassis: Hotchkis Chassis Max Brace, BMR Pro Cradle Bushings Exterior:: Shine by Adam's. ...and plenty more

02-12-2011, 11:52 AM	#71
woodside783 Casey Woodside Drives: a very fun car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tn Posts: 1,906	what octane is safe in the 416, 93 or 110

02-12-2011, 11:57 AM	#72
CC Performance Account Suspended Drives: 99 Camaro SS, 79 z28, 70 GTX Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ST Helens, OR Posts: 1,759	Well we build it for the fuel your going to use so 91 is fine

02-12-2011, 05:07 PM	#73
woodside783 Casey Woodside Drives: a very fun car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tn Posts: 1,906	ok thanks cant wait to start this build

02-12-2011, 05:40 PM	#74
S-eatin-grin Drives: 2013 2SS/RS AGM Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: WV Posts: 1,170 View My Garage	I've finally talked my wife into letting me get the 416 stroker...essentially told her that she was right...that I was an idiot for getting the supercharger without reading more and knowing the risk. (Think she liked the part about me being and idiot and her being right) Told her that if I don't do it I may end up blowing the motor (which is the truth)and it will cost even more to fix. So now my biggest hurdle is figuring out the least expensive way to way to get my motor out and shortblock stripped down to send to CC performance...the shortblock and parts price isn't so bad, it's the labor that kills you! Damn I wish I had a lift and all the tools needed! I know you told me before that shipping the bare shortblock out to you is only about $150. Does the completed shortblock price include free shipping? If not..what would the cost be to ship it to 20870?

02-12-2011, 05:53 PM	#75
CC Performance Account Suspended Drives: 99 Camaro SS, 79 z28, 70 GTX Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ST Helens, OR Posts: 1,759	I'll get the cost on shipping Monday, no it doesn't include crate and freight, But it shouldn't be to bad especially if we ship to a business.

02-13-2011, 08:45 AM	#77
S-eatin-grin Drives: 2013 2SS/RS AGM Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: WV Posts: 1,170 View My Garage	Right now I 'm using the stock edelbrock sc pulley with I think is 3.5" and am at 7lbs boost. I will be adding going to 3.25" pulley LPE dual pump, 85 lb injectors and a blower cam...probably the JRE or the ZR1 cam with beefed up valvetrain in addition to the 416 ci stroker. I'm not expecting to go much over 600rwhp. keeping hte stock heads and want a conservative tune. It's a beast already! The compromise with the wife though is that I don't do it until I've saved up for it. Complete suspension upgrade next month lready paid for. So in the meanwhile I'm doing the JRE feul rail upgrade as a band-aid for my concerns.

02-13-2011, 05:11 PM	#80
woodside783 Casey Woodside Drives: a very fun car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tn Posts: 1,906	i have the money for the parts just not the money for the labor yet

02-19-2011, 03:24 AM	#81
incon3037r GMHIC Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1/2008 Pontiac G8 GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 137	Are these hp numbers on 91oct and stock equipment or is it required to have CAI, LTH and catback exhaust to make these numbers.

02-19-2011, 09:20 AM	#82
CC Performance Account Suspended Drives: 99 Camaro SS, 79 z28, 70 GTX Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ST Helens, OR Posts: 1,759	cai and lt's should be in place first

03-14-2011, 05:28 PM	#84
CC Performance Account Suspended Drives: 99 Camaro SS, 79 z28, 70 GTX Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ST Helens, OR Posts: 1,759	The price of the E-Force jumps to $6995 on may 1st.. This price of this package will stay the same so then we are making more power for less money than the E-Force and Maggy. We offer both the Maggy and the E-force as well, I just happen to feel this engine deal is more for your money....... because it is.