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Old 02-27-2011, 02:19 PM   #71
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rolnslo,

Thanks for all the pics of the radiator setup. Without doing your little mod on the top brackets and just leaving them off, does the radiator move at all, or is it secure.

Personally, I'd rather be safe than sorry, and have those top brackets in place. For what this is going to cost, Vararam should just include a set of modified brackets with the kit. After paying a bunch of money for an intake, I shouldn't have to hacksaw parts of my car, even if those parts are just brackets.
I know that none of you have this intake installed, which is why I'm trying to convey as much info on this as I can.

I just when out and removed the intake, then re-installed the stock upper radiator brackets. In the stock configuration, my radiator has between 1/16" and 3/16" of free play (due to the rubber grommets that are in the stock brackets), depending on where I push on the radiator.

With the intake installed and without the stock upper brackets, my radiator has between 2/16" and 4/16" of free play, measured in the exact same locations.

Honestly, we aren't taking about a whole lot of excess motion being allowed with this intake - it's literally allowing for 1/16" in additional movement. I think I can account for that extra 1/16 of inch - it's the amount of crushability (is that even a word? ) of the rubber gaskets that run down front sides of the air deflector to prevent it from resting directly on the core support.

I had no idea that the stock radiator configuration even had free play built into it until I started working with Vararam. I never had a reason to check because I assumed it was still rock solid locked to the core support like all metal radiators used to be. Since the stock radiator is a combination of metal and plastic, it needs to have some degree of movement allowed in how it's mounted since the two materials expand/contract at different rates. If the radiator was locked in solid, you'd run the risk of cracks or broken seals where the plastic and metal meet.

Next time you have the hood open on your Camaro [and the radiator is cold ], grab it and see if it moves. It should and you'll see the flexibility comes because of the rubber grommets used at the attachment points.

Hope that helps out with the info on how this intake affects radiator support.

EDIT: One last thing - like I said before, I don't plan on running with the stock upper brackets (modified or not). Installing them with the intake seems like overkill. If you do install them, then you run the risk of pinching the gaskets on the air deflector between the deflector and the core support. Personally, I'd rather leave that little bit of extra movement than bind up the intake assembly when the motor moves.

Time to go put some miles on this car...good driving weather...hard to beat 75 degrees and mostly sunny!
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:54 PM   #72
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Again...really appreciate your info here!

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Time to go put some miles on this car...good driving weather...hard to beat 75 degrees and mostly sunny!
You suck. lol. Although here in Mid Mo the weather is changing for the better finally!
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:30 PM   #73
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:10 AM   #74
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I don't think the surface area of that filter is adequate or large enough to filter out the dirt without frequent cleaning....but what do I know?
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:26 AM   #75
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Before anyone gets excited I am working on a unit also and will bring to market. It simply involves cutting a hole in the middle of your hood a sticking your filter up through the hoods where it just rests on the hood. All the cold air you want and it will look real good to. Should get you 60+hp. Currently taking pre-orders at only 399.99.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:31 AM   #76
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:33 AM   #77
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Before anyone gets excited I am working on a unit also and will bring to market. It simply involves cutting a hole in the middle of your hood a sticking your filter up through the hoods where it just rests on the hood. All the cold air you want and it will look real good to. Should get you 60+hp. Currently taking pre-orders at only 399.99.
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:32 AM   #78
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haha sounds like a scam doesn't it...
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:10 AM   #79
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its lik the performance chip thing hahahahhaha lol
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I'll be buying one soon aswell. Ron from Vengeance mentioned it to me the other day and he's definetly the man to talk to. I'll be hydro dipping mine more than likely.
that's who I talked to as well
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Before anyone gets excited I am working on a unit also and will bring to market. It simply involves cutting a hole in the middle of your hood a sticking your filter up through the hoods where it just rests on the hood. All the cold air you want and it will look real good to. Should get you 60+hp. Currently taking pre-orders at only 399.99.
and how much when combined with the electronic supercharger??
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:57 PM   #82
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Before anyone gets excited I am working on a unit also and will bring to market. It simply involves cutting a hole in the middle of your hood a sticking your filter up through the hoods where it just rests on the hood. All the cold air you want and it will look real good to. Should get you 60+hp. Currently taking pre-orders at only 399.99.
Wow! Thanks for your ever so useful post into this thread. Much appreciated!

You are more than welcome to drive down to TX and drive my car with this intake on it. Heck, I'll even swap back to the stock intake so you can do a proper comparison. Seriously, just let me know when you arrive in Houston and I'll give you directions.
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would be cool to get an injen intake to dyno at the same time as this one...
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Old 02-28-2011, 03:14 PM   #84
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would be cool to get an injen intake to dyno at the same time as this one...
This does seem to be the comparison that most of you want to see. Personally, I don't see Vararam funding the dyno time to do this though.
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