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40again · 03-19-2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cmore

Have Verizon and we do not have service in a lot of places. My LG phone works where others don't, Haven't tried OnStar in those area so not sure if it works there, but if version doesn't, OnStar may not either.

Isn't ONSTAR satellite based?

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-19-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 40again

Isn't ONSTAR satellite based?

Correct for the most part...but it may use local cell phone towers for some functions...

Number 3 · 03-19-2011, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cmore

Have Verizon and we do not have service in a lot of places. My LG phone works where others don't, Haven't tried OnStar in those area so not sure if it works there, but if version doesn't, OnStar may not either.

OnStar works were your phone won't. I've found OnStar to work in the middle of New Mexico where my cell phones had no service. 3 Watts is a lot of capability.

Also OP, how exactly do you take this do mean GM thinks you are stupid? I am really curious as to what your reasoning is for that.

40again · 03-19-2011, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Correct for the most part...but it may use local cell phone towers for some functions...

From what I can find on the web the OnStar operator and emergency functions are satellite, the phone is cell based.....

SILVERHAWK · 03-20-2011, 12:42 AM

Yeah, whats the big deal with using the sealant. Its a temporary fix like the spare tire tire is on most vehicles. TPM's aren't very expensive and can be easily replaced when and if your flat can be fixed if you use the sealant. Who cares if it throws off the balance a little-- you shouldn't go long distances when you use the sealant kit anyway. If the tire can be fixed and not replaced it shouldn't be damage by a short distance out of balance. Funny thing is I see so many people while on duty who try to change a flat tire and they never remember to service their spare tire SO guess what? YEP , they put it on and its FLAT TOO... BOY THAT SURE HELPED ALOT!
It was in the literature when we all looked at buying these cars ya shoulda known what was up. As for me, I will take my chances with what GM has provided.

stray bullitt · 03-20-2011, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by swagled

I've driven about 500,000 miles in my lifetime. Have changed 3 flat tires, ever. I'd rather have a spare; I know they do get used. But I have to admit, it's not that common. Tires are much better than they used to be.

I'm the same. But, "touch wood", I haven't had a flat for years now. Most of my cars are sold on with a perfectly unused spare in the boot. I think they do give one peace of mind though, particularly if you live in the middle of nowhere, and completely shred a tyre.

AZ MSCL · 03-20-2011, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by abaucom21

Unless the auto comes standard with run-flate tires, I think it is irreponsible to sell an auto without a spare tire and jack. Next week I will be in contact with my dealer to purchase a spare tire and jack for my 2011 2LT Camaro. I must be stupid to have thought the price I paid for this Camaro included something so basic as a spare tire and jack.

The Challenger comes minus a spare and a jack as well or you can buy it for $100. You get some kind of foam filling device instead (like I'd use that and ruin a tire). So don't feel stupid.

liquidsmoke · 03-20-2011, 06:05 AM

Don't feel stupid. It's an honest mistake, despite what people say here about it being in the literature it's one of those things that can easily be over looked. Esp with the excitement of buying this awesome car, I myself didn't think about it till days after.

The only blame you can place on GM/chevy is maybe they should of put a higher priority on the event of tire failure and what the consumer will go through. But that's about it, because there are options available.

With that said, I pray I never have to find out first hand. Tires for this car are hard to find and prob next to impossible if you need them immediately. The fix a flat stuff it comes with should be fine for anything but larger holes or blowouts. If it's the latter you won't be making it to your destination for a while.

Now excuse me, I have to stop being an idiot and go put the air compressor and fix a flat back in my trunk and not on the workbench in my garage.

Bumblebee2 · 03-20-2011, 06:28 AM

I don't care if I have a spare or not, because I won't be changing it if I get a flat. I will be calling road side service. I couldn't change a tire to save my life. LOL So its no big deal to me.

jkelly · 03-20-2011, 07:45 AM

when I ordered my 2010 2lt in may 09 i was given a choice. I have the 19 in wheels. I opted for the spare tire. i haven't had to use it yet. but I did get a screw in my tire. had it fixed before it became a problem. go back and buy a spare.

2011ss/rs · 03-20-2011, 08:19 AM

My Camaro SS and Pontiac G8 GT did not come with a spare or a jack but they have the air kit and sealer. I ran over a allenwrench and got a flat in the G8 I used the sealer but it made the tire jump all over the place and I ended up replacing the tire.
When I took the G8 into the dealer for an oil change I was going to replace the small can but I was told it is $40.00.

cmore · 03-20-2011, 08:52 AM

It ought to be optional for all models but is not for the bigger dia rims/tires. I would not mind, to bad anyway, paying extra for it. That way those who wish to remain spare less, would not have to pay for those of us who don't. Its an engineering issue the size of spare tire storage hole.

03-20-2011, 12:42 AM	#75
SILVERHAWK Drives: 2011 2SS/RS, '22 Silverado Z71 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: The First State Posts: 3,116	Yeah, whats the big deal with using the sealant. Its a temporary fix like the spare tire tire is on most vehicles. TPM's aren't very expensive and can be easily replaced when and if your flat can be fixed if you use the sealant. Who cares if it throws off the balance a little-- you shouldn't go long distances when you use the sealant kit anyway. If the tire can be fixed and not replaced it shouldn't be damage by a short distance out of balance. Funny thing is I see so many people while on duty who try to change a flat tire and they never remember to service their spare tire SO guess what? YEP , they put it on and its FLAT TOO... BOY THAT SURE HELPED ALOT! It was in the literature when we all looked at buying these cars ya shoulda known what was up. As for me, I will take my chances with what GM has provided. __________________

03-20-2011, 06:05 AM	#78
liquidsmoke Two Miles An Hour Drives: SIM 2LT RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: chicago Posts: 1,209	Don't feel stupid. It's an honest mistake, despite what people say here about it being in the literature it's one of those things that can easily be over looked. Esp with the excitement of buying this awesome car, I myself didn't think about it till days after. The only blame you can place on GM/chevy is maybe they should of put a higher priority on the event of tire failure and what the consumer will go through. But that's about it, because there are options available. With that said, I pray I never have to find out first hand. Tires for this car are hard to find and prob next to impossible if you need them immediately. The fix a flat stuff it comes with should be fine for anything but larger holes or blowouts. If it's the latter you won't be making it to your destination for a while. Now excuse me, I have to stop being an idiot and go put the air compressor and fix a flat back in my trunk and not on the workbench in my garage. __________________ expect nothing, but take everything

03-20-2011, 07:45 AM	#80
jkelly EMERALD COAST CAMAROS Drives: 2lt summit white dk gray int Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: niceville,florida Posts: 673 View My Garage	when I ordered my 2010 2lt in may 09 i was given a choice. I have the 19 in wheels. I opted for the spare tire. i haven't had to use it yet. but I did get a screw in my tire. had it fixed before it became a problem. go back and buy a spare. __________________ Big Bertha! 2010 summit white 2Lt cgm rally stripes,hot pink pin stripes,doug thorley shorties,pink bowties,led side markers,sequetial led tail lights,NLP spoiler,magnaflow axel back exhaust, AIRAID CAI(soon to be Vararam)

03-20-2011, 08:19 AM	#81
2011ss/rs Drives: 11 ss/rs RJT w/Black Cherry stripes Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Egg Harbor New Jersey Posts: 2,181 View My Garage	My Camaro SS and Pontiac G8 GT did not come with a spare or a jack but they have the air kit and sealer. I ran over a allenwrench and got a flat in the G8 I used the sealer but it made the tire jump all over the place and I ended up replacing the tire. When I took the G8 into the dealer for an oil change I was going to replace the small can but I was told it is $40.00. __________________

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03-20-2011, 06:28 AM	#79
Bumblebee2 Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 2	I don't care if I have a spare or not, because I won't be changing it if I get a flat. I will be calling road side service. I couldn't change a tire to save my life. LOL So its no big deal to me.

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cmore Drives: 2011 Victory Red Auto 2SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Tn Posts: 628	It ought to be optional for all models but is not for the bigger dia rims/tires. I would not mind, to bad anyway, paying extra for it. That way those who wish to remain spare less, would not have to pay for those of us who don't. Its an engineering issue the size of spare tire storage hole.