So let's set this straight on what gives it that v8 sound

[blizzpat]

Buyers regret sucks eh

[ravensjeff]

Originally Posted by DarkObsession

I don't understand this... my stock exhaust LS3 is incredible loud for factory exhaust which surprised me. Yeah, it's not as loud as aftermarket will get you but it's still pretty damn loud. Do you have the L99?

I started out with the L99. It was way too quiet for me. Keep in mind though that I've been to hundreds of Rock concerts and have an even louder Harley!

I love the sound of the car now- 650HP+ of Forged/Supercharged power coming through the Borla system. It is not for the timid.

[stand-al0ne]

Originally Posted by blizzpat

I think you are failing horribly at seeing what everyone is telling you.

Maybe you can imitate the sound but you can't have the attitude of a v8. Sure you can make a v6 faster than a v8 but it'll never be that untamed beast of a v8. Who wants a turbo v6 when they can have a cammed v8 :P.

meee

I'd also take a twin turbo'd v6 too - either one BroNacho

[maguilar496]

have any of you guys seen that FM modulator that gives you engine sounds throught your speakers........... that thing can make even a smart sound like a V8 lol........

or a v12 for that matter........

youtube is blocked here at work. but there is a good youtube vid on this. someone please look it up and post.

[edit] wait somebody all ready did

[josh52382]

sounds like someone is upset about not getting a V8. I tell you this I have not found a v6 that sounds like a V8. IMO if you want the sound get the engine. Dont try to say a v6 can sound like a V8 cause IMO it will never be. Good reading though.

[InvaderMoose]

Where in the world are people getting that hes upset about not buying a v8? Do you people even read the topic? This topic started because of rumors the 6th gen will have a turbo'd v6 or something of that nature, and hes trying to prove that a v6 can sound like a v8 if you work with it enough.

It's like some of you are just freaking blind.

Here is the thread I'm assuming got him to post this: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=143573&page=3

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Originally Posted by camaroc5

I have been reading over and over again posts about how if the V8 were to disappear a V6 would not and could not ever sound like a V8. First point. Number of cylinders does not give it that "V8" sound. It is the individual size of the cylinder. Example: Take off two cylinders off of the L99 or Ls3...would it atomaticaly sound like a "wimpy V6"? NO! It would not. I'm sure some of you can relate to this doing a mod and having a couple of cylinders not firing. So even with two cylinders gone off of the Ls3 or L99 the timings would just need to be adjusted...even without an adjustment the sound would be there. Second point. Why is it a Harley sounds so mean? Two giant cylinders! Sure sounds a whole lot better than a 4 cylinder or V6 in terms of deep, mean, raw power sound. Point 3. It's funny how a V10 in most cases will not sound has aggressive as a V8 and sounds more refined. That's because a lot of times V10 engines are being shoved in the same size space as where a V8 would go. Solution: smaller cylinders= less aggressive sound. Now sure torque and power would be lost operating with two cylinders missing but this is no issue considering GM is realeasing a 320+hp V6 that only has 3.6 liters...compare that to the 100 more hp being put out by a monster of a 6.2L V8...ratios seem a little off per liter huh? So I'm sure just having 6 cylinders would be no excuse for loss of power

Closing point. So if the V8 were to ever die and people were to be upset about the loss of that great sounding engine, it's okay! All they have to do is just finally make a V6 or maybe even a 4 cylinder that has bigger cylinders just like the Ls3 or L99 I mentioned earlier that had two cylinders cut off from. I think it shouldn't have to come to the V8s downfall for such an engine to be created...could you imagine the confusion and the looks on peoples faces if someone decided to break from the norm and crush that whole "V8s the only way to go crowd" because let's be honest...why do most people want a v8 so badly? SOUND...and 99% of those people believe it comes from the number of cylinders.

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Its not the cylinder size that gives it the sound. Its the stroke length of the piston from bottom to Top Dead Center. A V8 has a longer stroke which gives more torque but lower revs. A v6 has a shorter stroke in most cases but revs higher. A four cyl has an even shorter stroke and revs higher which gives it the annoying buzz. So the shorter the stroke the higher the rev. The longer the stroke the deeper the sound and lower rev yet more torque. Again the longer the stroke the better the torque. The shorter the stroke the lesser the torque so it depends on revs to get it to go. V8s depend on raw torque. V6s are in between, yet our v6 have only 278lb or torque, which isnt really bad for the small size of the engine. The hyunda is a 3.8 and I think thats only 260 something. The Must is 280. The 270z is a 3.8 I think with less than 270lbs if not mistaken.

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Originally Posted by HDDAN

The OP is right about cylinder volume giving the LS3 L99 the basso profundo sound. A big V twin motorcycle like my Harley has a deep bark because of the huge cylinders. A Ducati has the same kind of bass sound but it is a little different because a Harley is a 45 degree V-twin and a Duck is a 90 degree V-twin. However a large displacement multi cylinder engine like a Kawasaki Ninja ZX1400 does NOT have that bass sound due to small cylinder volume. Consequently, a six cylinder Camaro would have to displace roughly five liters to sound at all like a V-8.

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Its not the Cylinder size. Harley Davidsons have long stroke engines. When I had my old HD enging apart I was surprised at how small the cylinders were as to what I was expecting. But the bike sounded like a 2cyl. V8. Rice rockets have short strokes and high revs and high pitches even with big cylinders.

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Originally Posted by cab2g

Wait a minute, this thread didn't set anything straight! There are 4 and a half different assertions here! Now I don't know who to believe. Gosh darn interwebs, too many engine experts in the kitchen messing up the recipe!

This thread made me laugh.

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A cam will give it a lope...but has nothing to do with the actual exhaust note. Firing order also has little to do with the exhaust note, nor piston size.

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Originally Posted by camaroc5

So am I right or wrong? If you took an ls3 or l99 and made no changes except remove two cylinders would or would it not still sound like a v8? Obviously it would sound a bit diff but deffinently not like a v6. Like I mentioned before, this not a v8 envy thread (I have one) I was just discussing where the core sound of an engine comes from. That's all, no need to be dissing anyone everyone.

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True it would sound closer to a V8 than your basic 6.

[1BADLS3]

^^^ Lots of good info in here, and lots of REALLY bad info.

750cc never sounded so good, and also never sounded so bad. It's not the size that matters...or number of cylinders...

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

Well i Have a 6 cyl and i when i put the Cold Air Intake on at higher RPM i have more of a growl than before..next is to increase airflow to the exaust larger pipes have a different tone..

if i understand right the V6 has smaller pipes becasue its not pushing as much exaust so just by making the pipes bigger you get the same (almost) sound .. same tone different fluxuation .

so far i've talked with my Mechanic:

CAI = +18 hp
catback =+ 10-15 hp
Diablo Chip = +20-40 hp (depending on V8 or V6)

so if this is true my 312 hp V6 can sound like a V8 and have nearly the power of a stock V8 at 385 hp potentially.

my 3/4 ton 2500 suburban has a six liter V8 and nearly the same hp as my V6 could have and i pull a 31' travel trailer with my suburban. that is alot of power and tourqe in a car brothers.

not to mention that we could change the gears and get a better 1/4 mile than a stock V8

point is that its all about your individual build what you do with your car and how you drive it.

technically no a V6 and V8 cant sound the same but they can have the same tone for sure.

just sayin

Can you get a link to a diablo tune for the v6? I have a good feeling you'll be looking for a while...

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Lots of ignorance comming from both the V8 and V6 fronts in this thread. Some V6 owners believe that with some mufflers changes their car will instantly sound just like a V8.

On the other end, some V8 owners think the best sound you can get from a V6 is like a 350Z and thats that.

Not true at all.

First off, concerning these cars/engines in particular the V6 is never going to sound just like a V8. You can make it sound very V8 like down low, but once you push the RPMs up it will give itself away.

That said, there are ways to make the V6 sound pretty dang mean in its own way. Some setups just end up being loud and raspy and high pitched, but if done right it can have a very nice rumble! (hope you have headphones or decent speakers for this) For example:



Or :

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143163

Also, just youtube some cammed V6 mustangs on youtube. They can sound pretty nasty.

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What setup is this?

[blizzpat]

The Sound Good Until Rev Setup.