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Muscle Master · 03-19-2009, 11:50 PM

I'm still optimistic about the 6.4 Hemi next year

pharmd · 03-20-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Muscle Master

I'm still optimistic about the 6.4 Hemi next year

You guys have a great engine platform, its just the tuning aspect that is so far behind. Once they bring that up to par, the sky is the limit...well I guess then aftermarket involvment will be the limit. But as long as Dodge stays afloat, and cars are selling, the aftermarket is gonna sell parts for sure.

Performance cars may be doomed anyway with CAFE and other government regulations though.

kevin2323 · 03-20-2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pharmd

As far as performance goes, the SRT8 can't even outrun my Trailblazer...and I'm gonna worry about it beating my SS??? Any who cares about a powertrain warranty, mine won't be stock a day...so if you think you're gonna be racing stock SS's in your warranteed SRT8, it will be an embarracing existance.

Now I really like the Challenger...its a VERY nice looking ride, but I mean, coming on a Camaro forum and saying your car is better at this and that??? I guess its gonna happen, but whatever. The mopar is inferior on most accounts (not opinion)...skid pad, 0-60, 1/4 mile, mpg, lane change, braking, road course, etc etc...The Camaro will own these, and based on the shear size of this car, rear seating and truck space will far exceed previous 4th gen's. Chevy aimed at a different kind of buyer with this car, while trying to retain its usual "muscle car" base. This car can corner, but it will still out accelerate most cost comparable cars.

Also, the Mopar aftermarket is light years behind Chevy. All these Vette LS3 aftermarket parts, will already fit, headers will be developed in short order and tuning is already available. I respect your choice to buy your Challenger or Charger or whatever, I used to own a Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 and they do have some impressive capabilties. But I'm a Chevy guy and the SS was an easy choice.

At least we are all buying American and hopefully getting our Nations economy and auto industry moving in the right direction.

yes that is the advantage you have on the challenger...aftermarket...everything else is subjective...not facts..the camaro is only a couple tenths quicker in the 1/4th than the challenger....that makes it a drivers race on the street...who hits the gas faster...who spins less...lots of things to take into account.

these cars are both quick...and track? I would never track a muscle car..but at least these cars are lightyears better on the skid then its ancestors...even the challenger.

Blownhotrodder · 03-20-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pharmd

Performance cars may be doomed anyway with CAFE and other government regulations though.

They said the same thing 30 years ago. The sad thing is that the manufactures dont improve their game unless they are forced too.

Muscle Master · 03-20-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kevin2323

yes that is the advantage you have on the challenger...aftermarket...everything else is subjective...not facts..the camaro is only a couple tenths quicker in the 1/4th than the challenger....that makes it a drivers race on the street...who hits the gas faster...who spins less...lots of things to take into account.

these cars are both quick...and track? I would never track a muscle car..but at least these cars are lightyears better on the skid then its ancestors...even the challenger.

I would ...

Lets say I have moderate experience around a track, And I am not scared of whipping that fat ass around a corner neither

POWERSLIDE BABY !!!!! :WOOT

kevin2323 · 03-20-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Muscle Master

I would ...

Lets say I have moderate experience around a track, And I am not scared of whipping that fat ass around a corner neither

POWERSLIDE BABY !!!!! :WOOT

sorry I phrased that wrong...........I would never buy a muscle car as a track car....of course i woud love to whip the tail on these cars all over the place lol.

THE EVIL TW1N · 03-20-2009, 01:55 AM

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Another thing...I wish to goodness that all these American people who are buying their Ricey cars EVO, 370Z, GT-R etc, would freaking wake up and realize that all they are doing is selling out the country they live in....WTF? I don't care if it has a better interior, or has a turbo...the economy sucks and by buying rice your not helping...the value of a dollar is crap...the country used to be brother helping brother...now its self serving self...freakin wake up before our country and all it stands for is history.

this country has NEVER been about brother helping brother. You must not be a minority

SummoneR · 03-20-2009, 02:19 AM

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maybe long term the camaro wont be turning heads like the challenger...but these next few weeks i promise you every time we gas up or park at the grocery store somebody will be there asking what it is, how fast it is, and if they can sit in it

That's for sure!

The Camaro has more lines... flashy!! ewww pretty... LOL
That catches the eye, along with a nice exhaust tone after it catches the ear and rattles you to your soul...

SummoneR · 03-20-2009, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pharmd

Another thing...I wish to goodness that all these American people who are buying their Ricey cars EVO, 370Z, GT-R etc, would freaking wake up and realize that all they are doing is selling out the country they live in....WTF? I don't care if it has a better interior, or has a turbo...the economy sucks and by buying rice your not helping...the value of a dollar is crap...the country used to be brother helping brother...now its self serving self...freakin wake up before our country and all it stands for is history.

Not that Toyota is in the performance car industry any more, but when they were!! WOW! That Supra was something special... anyway I digress, one thing about Toyota's, they have a plant right here in good ol Cal-If-Orn-I-A.

They employee a lot of Americans who make decent money and have great benefits. Plus you can't beat they way they run their assembly line, it's pretty dang high tech!! I'm not sure how Oshawa is ran after it's renovation (at elast I hear it was renovated? anyway... buying a Toyota does not hurt our economy if you ask me

But I hear they are having financial difficulty too? ...

Bowtie Guy Z28 · 03-20-2009, 10:47 AM

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I'll tell you what. Your big bad HEMI will most certainly leave a V6 Camaro in the dust. Good for you. Yes, there will be plenty of Mustang GT's for you to devour. Again, good for you. However, if you pull up at a light with an SS, and you think you are on even footing, you are sorely mistaken. If it is an automatic Camaro, go ahead and kiss all your pride goodbye. He is going to beat you, no matter how well you drive. If it is a manual Camaro, then you better cross your fingers and pray to your HEMI god that he misses a shift. Otherwise, he is going to beat you worse, and the only thing you will have to brag about is your number of spark plugs.

The R/T Challenger is a better car, I believe, than the SRT-8 as far as price is concerned. Until you start modifying your car, however, be fully prepared to take the numerous defeats you can, and undoubtedly will, suffer at the hands of SS Camaros you thought you could hang with.

I love it!!!!! It's all in good fun!!

HEMI DAVE · 03-20-2009, 11:11 AM

I am praying to my Hemi god right now..and he is good.

MerlinZero · 03-20-2009, 11:11 AM

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Agreed on the steering numbness. Steering is very precise but it took me a minute to learn to use visual cues and gut acceleromter to gauge steering response.

I don't see where you're coming from vis a vis interior though.

Challenger interior is a bit plain but that said it's clean, functional, and aof good quality. Looks classy but not very fancy.

Camaro interior has some awful cues that ruing the execution.

That is freakin hallarious... I love it

much better then the boob imprints on my Pontiac...

Looks like its a mammory test machine lol

65535 · 03-21-2009, 01:31 PM

man oh man

just checked the canadian pricing on the 1ss. Getting harder and harder to defend the challenger... In Canada you cannot get a challenger R/T with cloth seats... i guess things like that contribute to an inflated price.

kevin2323 · 03-21-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 65535

man oh man

just checked the canadian pricing on the 1ss. Getting harder and harder to defend the challenger... In Canada you cannot get a challenger R/T with cloth seats... i guess things like that contribute to an inflated price.

wtf that sucks.....

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