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KaotiK · 05-16-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueclyde

If GM offered something like this and it retained all of the factory warranty, I would be all over it. It is the only way that I will modify this car. Otherwise, I am leaving it alone.

my thoughts exactly! I would get a stage 2 mod for sure if GM offered it.

KaotiK · 05-16-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stymie

I'm hoping that YOU as fellow members & ZL1 enthusiasts will take my "word" for it. I have nothing to gain by trolling this site & I absolutely LOVE my #61. From my source, extremely close to this project, I can assure you that this is 100% accurate. That's about all I can say at this point as I promised not to take it any further. A man's word is his worth & I promised to follow specific guidelines. You didn't think that the rivalry between CHEVY & FORD was over, did you? Be prepared to be impressed BIG TIME!

i should have read the thread further! Got to this post and it made my day! I am so in!!! Go

!

2ndCamaro79 · 05-16-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by htron50

I hate to tell ya, but IF GM added a "mere 82 HP" to the current ZL1, the two cars would STILL not be in the same league. Maybe the HP would be equivalent, but that's about it.........

I agree, the Shelby is rolling down the line as we speak and NO numbers from the Ford camp. I am not saying they might not have us in the straight line, but all that HP will NOT translate to a car that is as good overall as the ZL1. If the Shelby's bite was bigger than its bark, Ford would have leaked its numbers by now. I think Fords most complete car will continue to be the Boss 302 Laguna Seca edition.

htron50 · 05-16-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

I agree, the Shelby is rolling down the line as we speak and NO numbers from the Ford camp. I am not saying they might not have us in the straight line, but all that HP will NOT translate to a car that is as good overall as the ZL1. If the Shelby's bite was bigger than its bark, Ford would have leaked its numbers by now. I think Fords most complete car will continue to be the Boss 302 Laguna Seca edition.

I'm not predicting anything....... They've had a long time to get it together vs what GM has already produced, so, no biggie. I would say that they "better" do something better. It will be a better package than their 2012 for sure. But, we all know that there will be weak links in the chain....

I just keep reverting to "the style"..... and the origins from which it is derived and based. Compare that and then add the totality of the ZL1.....

My guess is that if you made everyone who was going to buy one drive both cars first, slam the doors, listen to the raindrops on the roof, hit a few potholes, etc there would be a groundswell of orders at one factory over the other. IMHO....... And I have no reason to be prejudice. But then again, it's just an opinion. (But I have driven the competition).

OldScoolCamaro · 05-16-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by actireman

Stymie, I don't like to call anybody out, but I read what you wrote and did some homework of my own. There is nothing on the radar at all for a stage 2 upgrade. I talked to the higher ups and the engine department and they all know of nothing. There is not much that happens or is going on with this car that I an not aware of or cant find the answer on. I don't want people, like myself, to get our hopes up for something that is not even in the works. For all others, I hope this helps.

...no surprise, but you know we will find it out here before you do I would wager....

KaotiK · 05-17-2012, 08:07 AM

at this point I would be happy if GM would have a factory (warrantied) tune that allow the install of a CAI. Still pulling for GM to come out with a stage 2 kit, but even if they don't I will be outsourcing an aftermarket upgrade such as Hennessey or Lingenfelter.

Scarrzz · 05-17-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SIRLOIN

How much money would you have to spend to make the ZL1 equivalent to the Shelby????........

How ironic of a question is that LOL.....

VERY ironic.

Why would I want to pay to have something less desirable?

Let's see, should I date Kate Beckinsale, or Ugly Betty?

Scarrzz · 05-17-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by actireman

Stymie, I don't like to call anybody out, but I read what you wrote and did some homework of my own. There is nothing on the radar at all for a stage 2 upgrade. I talked to the higher ups and the engine department and they all know of nothing. There is not much that happens or is going on with this car that I an not aware of or cant find the answer on. I don't want people, like myself, to get our hopes up for something that is not even in the works. For all others, I hope this helps.

OK, that is sad but very plausible, even very probable.

But if GM did install such upgrades as a " ZL1 V " from the factory, the acceleration war between the Camaro ZL1 and F*** Mustink would be at parity again, and we all know we have them beat on the road course.

Can you imagine the magazine covers?

Sounds like a winning idea to me.

... but I'll do it myself if I have to. I just want the factory model to clearly win the bragging rights contest.

KKreme15 · 05-21-2012, 07:46 AM

Bump - now that GT500 tests are out... I need this, GM.
Please.
I'm begging you

2012ZL1 · 05-21-2012, 08:03 AM

First of all, you can make the hp of the mustang in the zl1 and still stay below the costof the 500 that is outfitted to try to be competitive to the Z.
Z is still a better car at that point due to a better suspension and handling package.

1st Gen Forever · 05-21-2012, 08:44 AM

It is pretty easy and not too expensive to get quite a substantial bump in power from the LSA. I'm about to pull the trigger right now some changes to help it breathe better and still run cool in time for Camaro5 Fest.

It would be nice though to still have the peace of mind that some glitch that could show up in the driveline at 30k miles won't be blamed on my bump in power and denied warranty coverage.

2ndCamaro79 · 05-21-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KKreme15

Bump - now that GT500 tests are out... I need this, GM.
Please.
I'm begging you

Please give us Camaro guys something, and don't answer the Shelby back with the C7 Vett instead:(

lbls1 · 05-21-2012, 11:33 AM

Look at the base price listed. Not too sure what to make of all of this. Very daunting odds to overcome if this is real.

htron50 · 05-21-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lbls1

Look at the base price listed. Not too sure what to make of all of this. Very daunting odds to overcome if this is real.

ODDS to overcome = u feel disadvantaged to what? A vehicle you might possibly see one very obscure day? And, who exactly is going to make you feel that way? The ZL1 accolades are for real.

Now maybe if GM had offered the LS9 as an optional engine, no more issues for those concerned with a stang bang. It would have cost less to have an LS9 in the engine bay than to upgrade the LSA (I think)... but I'm not feeling the "daunting odds" you are.

Hint: Just jump it out of the hole by .2 of a second and save yourself $10,000 and a whole lot less gas mileage!??

You can't fix what ain't broke... and the ZL1, IMHO, is perfect!

05-17-2012, 08:07 AM	#76
KaotiK Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 242 View My Garage	at this point I would be happy if GM would have a factory (warrantied) tune that allow the install of a CAI. Still pulling for GM to come out with a stage 2 kit, but even if they don't I will be outsourcing an aftermarket upgrade such as Hennessey or Lingenfelter. __________________ 2012 ZL1 #478, BLACK, 6 SPD MANUAL, EXPOSED CARBON FIBER HOOD, BLACK 10 SPOKE WHEELS, SUNROOF, SUEDED APP. PACKAGE. 1000 Initial Order 11/29/2011Doug Marshall Chevrolet 1100 Order accepted at dealer: 11/29/2011 - QBFFHK 2000 Order accepted by GM: 01/24/2012 3000 Accepted By Production Control: 01/24/2012TPW - 03/05/2012 3100 Sequenced: 02/20/2012 3300 Scheduled For Production:02/20/2012 3400 Broadcast: 02/22/2012 3800 Produced: 03/07/2012 4000 Available To Ship: 03/07/2012 4200 Shipped: 04/05/2012 5000 Delivered To The Dealer: 04/13/2012 6000 Delivered To Customer: 04/19/2012

05-21-2012, 08:03 AM	#80
2012ZL1 CaRaHoLiC Drives: '12 ZL1,67 Cam,68 Biscayne 427 4 sp Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 1,701	First of all, you can make the hp of the mustang in the zl1 and still stay below the costof the 500 that is outfitted to try to be competitive to the Z. Z is still a better car at that point due to a better suspension and handling package. __________________ 2012 ZL1 2.55 upper, 10" lower pullies, Innovators west billet hub and sfi balancer, solid blower drive isolator, 50 mm idler kit, full length S/S headers no cats, comp cams custom grind cam, comp roller rocker trunion kit, comp push rods,dual valve springs retainers and locks, Injector dynamics ID850 inectors, Rotofab ZL1 cold air kit, Lingenfelter 160 thermostat, Rotofab intercooler reservoir, stock plugs, LS7 90mm throttle body, GTO clutch reservoir mod, my own custom catch can, Tuning by Jannetty, install by me.

05-21-2012, 11:33 AM	#83
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,050	Look at the base price listed. Not too sure what to make of all of this. Very daunting odds to overcome if this is real. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

05-21-2012, 07:46 AM	#79
KKreme15 Drives: C6 Z06 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Dayton, MD Posts: 1,645	Bump - now that GT500 tests are out... I need this, GM. Please. I'm begging you

05-21-2012, 08:44 AM	#81
1st Gen Forever ZL1 #140 Drives: Camaros: 68 SS, 10 2SS/RS, 12 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 594	It is pretty easy and not too expensive to get quite a substantial bump in power from the LSA. I'm about to pull the trigger right now some changes to help it breathe better and still run cool in time for Camaro5 Fest. It would be nice though to still have the peace of mind that some glitch that could show up in the driveline at 30k miles won't be blamed on my bump in power and denied warranty coverage.