11-21-2013, 09:33 PM | #57 |
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dealers here in kansas city have several ZL1 on lots, yet, 2013. several verts and coupes. the new 14 vette is taking all the attention now.
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11-21-2013, 10:39 PM | #58 | |
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Michigan snow? How about Canada snow? haha. Tires is everything. "JUST BECAUSE OF TIRES". haha. I drove my 2SS 20" Perelli's once on the snow (packed hard, normal snow, not fluf snow). I turned the wheel left, car went straight. Turned right, car went straight. Damn thing just went straight. This is at 20mph. Actually, I couldn't get over 20mph on flat ground! Then I tried to stop... just kept going. I've always had F-Body's... always a WS6 through the years (first was a 1988!).. they all are bad in snow. The 2010+ with the 20's... DEADLY IN SNOW. Imagine in a hilly area.. coming down a hill.. picking up speed... brakes on... ABS.. haha. 1LE, Z28... even worse. |
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11-21-2013, 11:51 PM | #59 | |
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A 1LE could be heading for Death Valley for all I care. It'll still get there with cracked tires because Canada is freaking cold.
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11-22-2013, 10:42 AM | #60 | |
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They want $62,200 for the ZL1 BRM a/t vert I like .
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11-22-2013, 10:50 AM | #61 |
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Folks, the problem is real, I have small cracks in my tires. These tires are SUPER sticky when warm, and get super slippery below 40 degrees even on dry pavement. You virtually cannot help spin the tires when it is cold out. So what if they stop production for 3 months, there are likely selling the same amount of cars in a given year anyway. The new Z/28 will have the same issue, but it is a low production model. Changing the tires to another brand is not as easy as everyone is saying. Watch the videos, Al O says the suspension is dialed in for THESE tires.
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11-23-2013, 10:43 PM | #62 | |
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No I haven't forgot, I live in Michigan and own one of the 12's built week one in Feb that sat on the lot in Canada for most of the winter before delivered in 2013. I get the tires are sensitive to cold but come on. There must be few hundred junk sets of tires by now as it's below 20 degrees tonite. GM is still delivering cars in December and It's how warm there, 10 degrees tonight. They posted a buliten regarding these tires from nearly day one and many of dealers with cars on lots all night in cold climates. Do you think your car is going to delivered in heated comfort? How about the tires themselves, Being delivered, better check to see if the mountains are blue! I get it it's a safety percaution and glad there minimizing delivery if they are having problems, they are not going to get them all nor have in the past, currently or in the future. Tires are likely one of a few reasons.[/QUOTE] |
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11-23-2013, 10:48 PM | #63 |
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11-25-2013, 04:45 PM | #64 |
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well that sucks haha
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11-25-2013, 08:56 PM | #65 | |
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I hope you are joking....extreme weather as we have seen in the recent past and currently, is attributed to the higher volume of moisture available for weather systems and fronts to feed off of. Just sayin'... , off topic,...back to Camaro's
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12-01-2013, 12:43 PM | #66 | |
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12-21-2013, 04:21 PM | #67 |
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Wish they came with more weather friendly tires..........
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12-21-2013, 10:29 PM | #68 | |
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Someone said the 5th gen is bad in snow -- and I disagree. Put a set of Pirelli Scorpions on your Camaro and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. That's what we put on our CTFs -- (ZL1s and 1LEs included - ) -- and Mom Settlemire at 89 years of age has a set on her RS.........and she lives on a steep hill.....with a steep driveway. What people should learn: Performance Tires are performance tires because of (in part) the makeup of the tire composition - (sticky) and tread pattern.........
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01-01-2014, 04:33 PM | #69 |
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It's not the snow, it's the cold. My tires are safely tucked away in my basement because they suffer from the same aversion to cold.
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01-01-2014, 05:26 PM | #70 |
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Some of us live in temporate climate
Are you watching the Rose Bowl today? 79 degrees. I live in Northern California = 66 degrees today.
I don't think we have cold weather problems that others have. But my business thinking is that they really kill the model year. Because if they don't take orders/start building until Feb, you are only 2 months away from hearing what the 2015 will have on them. Also, end of model year for special orders. Why order in Feb, take delivery in April and then hear what the 2015 model has on it and regret it. I think their decision is not good for sales. Maybe they will find another alternative for next year. With all their design, forward thinking and business sense, you would think they won't make the same mistake twice! |
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