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Is the LSA and LS9 at end of life? Personally with all the trouble they seem to be having with the LT4... an LS9 in a C6 Camaro would be sweet.
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I think it sucks that we've got this HP war going on. It's gotten to ridiculous & it's getting close to irresponsible.
I hope Chevrolet finds another way to build value into the Camaro. Like Ferrari sells a car for $236,000 that makes no more HP than the ZL1.
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The LS engine period is at the end of it's life. There will be no more LS engines in any future vehicles. All GM trucks in addition to the Corvette are already using the LT based direct injection V8s. Camaro is the last to make the switch. But I agree, I'm not too pleased with the LT4. I feel they left a lot on the table and the issues could've been easily prevented. Direct injection on it's own is a whole additional issue. But oh well.
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Is there a press release from GM stating that somewhere?
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You need a press release stating the Camaro is the last platform using the LS based engines.
Writing's on the wall if you know how to read.
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the ignorance on these forums is just mind boggling sometimes
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Which wall? I am asking to since you seem to know. You do not have a clue what GM will use as their powertrain in a ZL1 or even a Z/28 if they even build them again. So if you make a statement like that back it up with a "press release" or something that will prove that smartass answer. |
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there needs to be some clarity here....there will ABSOLUTELY be an lt4 camaro. that is just fact. will it have the zl1 name? nobody ****ing knows
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LOL the 6th gen has already been confirmed as being LT1 powered... EVERY V8 powered GM vehicle except the Camaro is already using the LT1/4 or the appropriate variant for SUVs/trucks. Once 2015 comes to a close and 6th gens hit dealer lots there will be ZERO cars in GMs line up that are still LS powered except for MAYBE the Chevy SS, which will certainly eventually get the LT1 or similar, or the model will be discontinued. So please tell us how the LS engine is somehow NOT at the end of it's life? This is what happens.... Every so often a new series of engines comes out and replaces the old series of engines.... You shouldn't need a press release to understand this.
When the LS1 came out in the Corvette in '97 and the f-body in '98, that was the end of the 90s LT1 platform. There were no more LT1 powered vehicles. When the LT1 came out in '92, that was the end of the L98 TPI engines and their 305ci counterpart. They were replaced by the LT1. The list goes on if you want to keep going back.... That's how it works. I'm not pulling the idea out of thin air that the LS engine is at it's end.
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I'm not impressed with the overheating issues with the small 1.7L pullied blower on the LT4. After spending some time on the Z07 anal retentive corvette forum, I believe we have the best engine platform that GM has right now.
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I'll admit that I have had reservations about GM using the 1.7. I had difficulty keeping the 1.9 and the subsequent 2.3L superchargers cool on my camaro. At this time I have not tried to run an engine with the 1.7 blower (I'm considering adding one to my LT1 stingray) so I don't have any first hand knowledge but I'm fairly certain that if the current ZO6 owners installed a larger reservoir, bigger pump, and larger heat exchanger, the new corvette would be much cooler. On one hand I'm a little disappointed that GM puts out a "performance" car that can't complete an all out 30 minute track session in the warmer climates of the country the car was built without additional modifications. The new "up-model" Gen6 Camaro could use the LT4 and that would be very logical as far GM not needing to do a lot more engineering but since there is so much more room under the hood in a Camaro I would love to seem them look into an upgraded forced induction system for the next Camaro. If they really want to compete with the Hellcat and the next GT500 the LT4 is not going to cut it. Sadly the 1.9 and the other larger LS superchargers will not fit on the LT1 motor but GM could easily ask Eaton to build a new LT1 intake for the current 1.9 or 2.3 rotors. If they were to ask me I would say have Eaton design a brand new 3.0 supercharger to fit the LT1 and this would keep all of the power junkies happy for the life of the new motor. I kind of think the new mid engine ZR1 corvette is going to have twin turbos on the LT 6.2 platform and I would love to see this engine in a Camaro. Of course anything about a mid-engine, turbocharged V8 Corvette is pure speculation on my part....
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