Camber plates

[Gbland60]

Originally Posted by hot rod 65

Vorshlag makes high quality camber plates for our Z/28's and they are available. I have a set on mine.

They are high quality from pics.ive been considering these but the price is holding me back from not knowing if they raise your ride height. Can you tell if so how much?

[AustexaSS]

OEM ride height is maintained. I have them installed on my Z/28

[AustexaSS]

Here are some photos of the Vorshlag and the ride height after install.

[Gbland60]

Originally Posted by AustexaSS

Here are some photos of the Vorshlag and the ride height after install.

Thanks. By the way your car looks lower than oem. Did you add lowering springs or swapped over to coil overs? JW

[AustexaSS]

Originally Posted by Gbland60

Thanks. By the way your car looks lower than oem. Did you add lowering springs or swapped over to coil overs? JW

Ride height has not been altered with shorter springs or switching over to coil overs. I have installed Detroit Speed Engineering adjustable sway bars front and rear, DSE front end link kit, DSE adjustable rear toe links, DSE adjustable rear trailing arms, DSE adjustable rear lower control arms and DSE rear cradle mount kit, but none of these have any impact on ride height.

[JRL1LE]

How much front camber are u at with those plates?

Thanks

[AustexaSS]

Originally Posted by JRL1LE

How much front camber are u at with those plates?

Thanks

-3.1 currently

[JRL1LE]

Originally Posted by AustexaSS

-3.1 currently

Is that max negative camber you can get?

Thanks

[MrRaZ28]

Originally Posted by AustexaSS

-3.1 currently

Gotta be something wrong with either my plates or my knuckles then.. I couldn't get more than -1.7 out of mine... I installed them exactly as Vorshlag shows in their step-by-step picture guide, too.

[cdb95z28]

I have the DSSV's and Vorshlags on my '14 1LE. At one time I had the first gen Moreno camber plates and they did raise the ride height. The Vorshlags do not raise the ride height. The Vorshlags are a high quality setup. I bought them second hand and they are still rock solid. No noise.

Originally Posted by JRL1LE

Is that max negative camber you can get?

Thanks

I went with -3.5 at one time with the combo of my Vorshlags and adjusting at the knuckle. I'm not sure if I could get more than -3.5. but, we shouldn't need any more than that. And that will vary depending on tire used among other factors. Also, as we dial in more front negative camber, the ride height will be reduced. It does not amount to much, but it does affect it. >Ride height being measured from the wheel's bottom lip up to the fender edge.

Originally Posted by MrRaZ28

Gotta be something wrong with either my plates or my knuckles then.. I couldn't get more than -1.7 out of mine... I installed them exactly as Vorshlag shows in their step-by-step picture guide, too.

Without the camber plates I achieved -2.4 at the knuckle by elongating the upper hole of the bottom mount of the strut. Am I correct in understanding you did adjust at the knuckle?

Something I found in installing my Vorshlags is that I could not move them to their max camber setting because their upper spring seat would hit the inside of the strut tower. That most definitely limits available camber. I think the only way to get the max camber is if the Vorshlags are used with a coilover setup that utilizes a smaller od spring and seat. Next time you pull a front wheel off, take a flashlight and peak into the strut tower and look at your spring and seat to tower clearance.

Not being able to maximize that negative camber is my only complaint about the Vorshlags. And really it won't play a part if you only need about -3. Where it hurts is when/if you want to move the plates from a race camber to a street camber.

This year I needed move my race camber (-2.7) to a more friendly camber for a road trip to NC/TN from PA. I utilized the Vorshlags to reduce the camber by moving them outwards. I did not adjust at the knuckle, which is more involved. In moving the Vorshlags the camber spread/loss was only 1*, taking the camber to -1.7*. I would have much rather had my camber closer to -1 for the long trip. If upon initial setup during install, I could've setup the Vorshlags so they could move the entire way in, and fine tune at the knuckle, their spread from full race to full street would be greater than 1*.

[cdb95z28]

Also, the more you can move in the upper mount of the strut via camber plates, the less your knuckle/strut adjustment affects the tire to strut clearance. In other words, the more camber you dial in at the camber plate, the less you dial in at the knuckle and that helps tire to strut clearance.

[AustexaSS]

Agree as stated in post #80 and #81 by cdb95z28.

I was able to get -3.1 out of the factory set up without camber plates thus MrRaz28 something is off with your current setup. The Z/28 track day prep document indicates you should be able to achieve -1.5 +/- 0.50 degrees. There is more camber to be had beyond -3.5 as cdb95z28 states but a coilover with a smaller OD spring and seat is required because of the strut tower.

[dardbrown]

What size tires are you running?

[cdb95z28]

On my 1LE, I am running 305/30-19 on 19x11 at the front with a wheel offset of ET20 (20mm). But I am currently running a 5mm spacer to give more tire to strut clearance. So the effective offset is ET15. Last year I ran the Goodyear 3R. Tire choice, even at the same size, can play a part in the clearance. Some tires run wider than others.
The Z/28 front wheel is 19x11 ET11.