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[GEIST LS9]

Originally Posted by 2SSARME

You can buy a 33k camaro and throw on a tvs2300 and it'll have more hp and torque than that mustang and it will cost about 3k less... with those 3k you could get new header system cai and tune. Then you'll really be fast..

is that factory or aftermarket? with the tvs2300?.also what is the deal with the two performance upgrades that the camaro offers on the site,is it's like a repeat of the same thing with just exhaust.

[chappy48]

Originally Posted by GEIST LS9

this is gonna be a long post bear with me
Funny you should mention another branch because I originally intended on joinging the NAVY and due to the fact that I originally told them I had a GED and no college(At the time I didn't realize that going to a technical school counted as such to the military,so I left that out.)I took the ASVAB for the navy in July of this year mind you I had went down in weight from 352lbs when I started in August of 2008 to in July of 2009 at a scant 200lbs.I also obtained an ASVAB Study guide in January of 2009 and studied for 6 months.
At the time the minimum score for all branches including the air force
was 50/99.I took the test and scored a 68/99.soon afterwards I started bugging my recuiter to let me join.He and his superiors couldn't do anything to help me due to the fact that they had met their quota of GED people for the fiscal year.their fiscal year starts in october,so I being impatient contacted an ARMY recuiter and he tells me that with a GED i gotta have 15 credits of 500 clock hours worth of college.I had told him I went to a technical school in NJ where I'm from for a full year(12 months) and graduated.he had to look into what "teir" my school was catagorized and he'd get back to me.I thought it was just for the ARMY with the college credit thing so i asked my navy recuiter about it and he said the same thing and my navy recuiter told me I had to get the transcripts from NJ and him to look up if my school qualifies me to get into Navy.My navy recuiter never does look up the info.meanwhile I tell the army recuiter I would have to think about the descion to either stay with the navy and wait till god knows when or sit down and talk to the army about joining..about 2 months later I come up to my navy recuiter and ask him if any ged slots became available and he tells me due to the economy and such the navy raised its minmum score to 70!!(70/99) so now i'm faced with a messed up descion either retake the test and risk getting a worse score and have that remain as my ultimate score or possibly best my score and make it to 70/99 or above or join the army.

After I sat down with the Army recuiter he looked up at the schools i had went to.the place where i got my ged and tech school and both of them where teir one schools which qualified me as a high school graduate and not to mention i had 60 college credits with the tech school.
All my navy recuiter could have done was look up the info,offered me a job(one that i feel i could at least)and things would have been done.
it's kinda messed up that i put forth so much effort into doing what they told me i had to do cuz they saw me over the course of 11 months me loose 45% of my body weight and take and pass the test.I think they missed out on having a good asset on their team

I'm a Navy recruiter.

The minimum scores for all the branches are in the 30's. The Navy is 35. However we have been instructed not to take anyone down with less then a 50. In fact recently I think they bumped that up to a 65, but that's something the individual recruiting district would decide. The reason...there aren't any jobs available that any score less then that would qualify for. Also, unless you qualify for Nuclear Power or Navy SEAL, you aren't getting in, unless someone else gets kicked out. The Navy has become very picky about who they allow in now, because we are overmanned and we can't let everyone in that wants to be in.

It's not the recruiters job to look up your info. You should have given him your high school transcripts, GED certificate, and tech school transcripts. He would have then faxed them down to his education specialist who would have made the determination.

It is also not the recruiters job to offer you specific jobs in the Navy, that happens when you go down and take your physical and talk to a jobs counselor.

And how tall are you? Because 200lbs is still a little heavy, unless you're over 6'. I do give you props for the dedication you showed in losing all that weight. Most wouldn't have been able to do that. But if you're over the weight limit for your given height they can find out what your B/F% is and as long as it's under 25% you're good.

Keep this in mind also. Different branches have different standards and policies on who they allow in. Just because the Army says you're good to join, doesn't mean you qualify for the Navy. The Air Force for instance requires credit checks on everybody and if you have bad credit...no AF for you.

Best case scenario for the Navy would have been you under the B/F% and your tech school credits overcome your GED status. With your score all you could have done really is take the physical for the Navy and wait for them to call when they have an opening. This would usually only happen when someone else get's kicked out or they take a chance and send you down at the beginning of the month hoping there's a job available that they can slide you into.

It's not the recruiters fault, it's all the guys above him telling him who he can put in. No offense, but if it's between you and someone that scores a 90+ on the ASVAB, graduated high school, with no police trouble and wants to be a SEAL or Nuclear Power his boss' will tell him to put in the 90+. It's mostly out of his hands.

I'm happy that you were able to get into the military though. It will definitely help you out and give you a chance to have a guaranteed job for the next 4 years, which in this economy is golden. Ok my is over. Continue

[MrIcky]

I read Chappy's comments and all I can say is wow, that's changed alot from the 1980s.

[Mosher]

Darn it! No one gave me props for my little ryhm...

[jrc1122]

A few things..

I was an AF Active duty recruiter from 05-08. If you have a GED w/ no college - your chances of getting in the AF is slim to none.

we allowed 1% of our force to have GEDs. Meaning every 100 folks our squadron put in, we put in one GED.
Our policy was 65 ASVAB QT to even be eligible (with GED only)

I literally put one GED in my entire time.. He scored a 99 (perfect)-- guess what just like he dropped out of HS, he dropped out of My DEP.
No offense but if you don't have the ability to finish HS, we as recruiters have little faith that you will finish your DEP commitment, and if you do, then your boot camp commitment, then Tech School/ A-School- then the remainder of your time.

Nothing against GED holders- but statistically they don't do as well in the service, and the wash out rate is much higher. That is why the AF only allows 1% of it's force to have GED only.

Lastly-- Good Luck in the ARMY.. Unless they are giving you some huge bonus. You are going to be joining the real world soon. If you think an E1 can afford a 30K car. You are going to face reality soon enough. Sorry to crush your dreams.

1/2 the people I put in thought they were going to buy a nice 30 -35K car when they joined-- and I think the nicest car any of them bought (that I stayed in touch with ) was a 25K dollar truck.

Okay- last- last thing.. lol

I see you are from Jamestown NC-- I went to the HS you probably dropped out from.
Lucy Ragsdale High School- AKA Ragsdale HS.--- Just thought you would like to know how small this world really is.
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[jrc1122]

Originally Posted by chappy48

I'm a Navy recruiter.


Keep this in mind also. Different branches have different standards and policies on who they allow in. Just because the Army says you're good to join, doesn't mean you qualify for the Navy. The Air Force for instance requires credit checks on everybody and if you have bad credit...no AF for you.

Unless things changed in the past year.. (I separated in Nov 2008)

AF only required credit checks if:
you were 23 years old prior to your EAD date.
If you are/ or were ever married
If you disclose bad credit when answering the Security Questions. I.E. 30 day+ late payments on anything. and of course Bankruptcy.

And all Officer's receive credit checks regardless of age, etc.



Thread Jack- complete--
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[chappy48]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

Unless things changed in the past year.. (I separated in Nov 2008)

AF only required credit checks if:
you were 23 years old prior to your EAD date.
If you are/ or were ever married
If you disclose bad credit when answering the Security Questions. I.E. 30 day+ late payments on anything. and of course Bankruptcy.

And all Officer's receive credit checks regardless of age, etc.



Thread Jack- complete--

Unless the AF recruiter is lying (which I doubt cause he's a good guy) they started doing credit checks on everybody now. You are right though, it didn't used to be on everyone. Even the Navy has started implementing credit checks for all jobs that require a TS clearance.

[All-Or-Nothing]

I loved my Air Force days. I was an Aerospace Physiologist. I loved working with the U2's and the high altitude pressure suits. The hyperbaric and altitude chambers were lot's of fun too.

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by GEIST LS9

is that factory or aftermarket? with the tvs2300?.also what is the deal with the two performance upgrades that the camaro offers on the site,is it's like a repeat of the same thing with just exhaust.

If you want to keep your warranty, lets be honest, the mustang with the factory blower is a really good deal. Its gonna be faster then most cars on the road, and you're covered.

If warranty is not an issue, you can probably make similar power with the camaro, with full bolt ons, cams and heads (if you want to do it in phases and stay naturally aspirated). The mustang will be cheaper to mod (mod for mod, you'll see why next sentence), however, it won't net the same gains as the camaro will. A full bolt on, cammed, heads, mustang (2010) is gonna be very expensive, and will yield aroudn 390 whp (that's the best i've seen) The camaro on the other hand, Will put down much more (I'm not gonna guess because All i know is you will make killer gains from just an intake and exhaust) and cost less then the comparative price of the super charger. But if you really want to go fi, then you can find a good quality supercharger for under 4 grand (for the mustang), and it will put you past most cars on the road, and into the elevens at the quarter. Forced Induction for the camaros (that i have seen) Have been upwards of 7 or 8 grand.

I plan on going naturally aspirated, so if i could get an ls3 in the mustang, you better believe i would.

[jrc1122]

Originally Posted by chappy48

Unless the AF recruiter is lying (which I doubt cause he's a good guy) they started doing credit checks on everybody now. You are right though, it didn't used to be on everyone. Even the Navy has started implementing credit checks for all jobs that require a TS clearance.

Now that I think about it, I do recall the rule changing or about to change when I seperated.

I remember thinking this was going to hurt us making goal.


The AF was a great to me, but I didn't care much at all for being a recruiter.
Before my recruiting days I was a 1C671 (Space Systems Operator)

Great job, did things, and saw things, and learned things that very few people will ever do or know.. Cool stuff!
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[GEIST LS9]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

A few things..

I was an AF Active duty recruiter from 05-08. If you have a GED w/ no college - your chances of getting in the AF is slim to none.

we allowed 1% of our force to have GEDs. Meaning every 100 folks our squadron put in, we put in one GED.
Our policy was 65 ASVAB QT to even be eligible (with GED only)

I literally put one GED in my entire time.. He scored a 99 (perfect)-- guess what just like he dropped out of HS, he dropped out of My DEP.
No offense but if you don't have the ability to finish HS, we as recruiters have little faith that you will finish your DEP commitment, and if you do, then your boot camp commitment, then Tech School/ A-School- then the remainder of your time.

Nothing against GED holders- but statistically they don't do as well in the service, and the wash out rate is much higher. That is why the AF only allows 1% of it's force to have GED only.

Lastly-- Good Luck in the ARMY.. Unless they are giving you some huge bonus. You are going to be joining the real world soon. If you think an E1 can afford a 30K car. You are going to face reality soon enough. Sorry to crush your dreams.

1/2 the people I put in thought they were going to buy a nice 30 -35K car when they joined-- and I think the nicest car any of them bought (that I stayed in touch with ) was a 25K dollar truck.

Okay- last- last thing.. lol

I see you are from Jamestown NC-- I went to the HS you probably dropped out from.
Lucy Ragsdale High School- AKA Ragsdale HS.--- Just thought you would like to know how small this world really is.

well to clarify things about where i'm from I'm LIVING in Jamestown,I was born and raised in Asbury Park,NJ.and I'm going in as an E2(Private with the insignia) but yeah I know at the start i won't be making much,but besides the car payment the rest of the money I'm stacking/
I did originally want to go into the navy and be a CTI(Cryptological Technician's Interprative) but since things turned out the way they did I'm ok with what I have.

I'll admit it was a mistake droppin out of hs,but it's one given a second chance i'd never repeat.but to the best of my knowledge the navy has indeed raised the ASVAB TO 70 even though I Scored a 68,and the credit checks is what kept me out of the navy

what I do want to do with the project car is eventually like SWAT 79 said and go in phases but the car will be fully built with FI,Trans,Rear Gears,Rear end. But I also want to keep it a sleeper.
I'm still throwing Ideas around in my head

Its still a hard toss up between Stang,Camaro,Chally and I'm even considering a 2008 Ford F-350 Super Duty Diesel or any Domestic Diesel Truck for that matter.

I'm not sure if you guys can tell but I'm the type of person who likes anything that can go fast.Sport bikes do scare the hell outa me though,I'm very reluctant to consider owning one

I know this may sound outlandish and crazy but I realize it'll take me a while to do it but if everything goes well in the army I'd like to save enough money to buy a nice italian exotic as kinda a retirement gift for myself(I know some old people buy vettes,I want something that would be better than some viagra)

[SWAT 79]

Hahaha, no way i would buy a bike. I want one, but i'm too crazy for my own two feet let alone a 180 mph bike. For what you're looking for, i think the mustang or camaro would be best. Just so many options for the mustang, and the camaro responds really well to simple bolt ons. For the sleeper value though, the mustang is a much more discreet car with the right color. You sure do have plenty of options tho haha

[Mosher]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

Hahaha, no way i would buy a bike. I want one, but i'm too crazy for my own two feet let alone a 180 mph bike. For what you're looking for, i think the mustang or camaro would be best. Just so many options for the mustang, and the camaro responds really well to simple bolt ons. For the sleeper value though, the mustang is a much more discreet car with the right color. You sure do have plenty of options tho haha

Hey Swat, you get a big fat

These bikes are getting so fast now, and there is no Crumple zone, you are the crumple zone when you ride a bike....

It's not just a matter of crazy or not, it's self preservation

[GEIST LS9]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

Hahaha, no way i would buy a bike. I want one, but i'm too crazy for my own two feet let alone a 180 mph bike. For what you're looking for, i think the mustang or camaro would be best. Just so many options for the mustang, and the camaro responds really well to simple bolt ons. For the sleeper value though, the mustang is a much more discreet car with the right color. You sure do have plenty of options tho haha

yeah you're right that's the hard thing about picking,because right now I can only pick one.
However i do realize i will have a little bit higher car payment than you'd think cuz when I do trade my car in I'll be $2100 upside down and that'll be rolled into the grand total of the price which I know due to the fact I USED to be a car saleman and got out of it before everything completely went to hades in a Escalade.
over the past 3 years I've sold 16 cars for 3 dealerships

Freehold Mitsubishi(which now is no more)When I was there I sold 9 cars.I eventually transfered to being a prep tech at their Chrysler dealership when things got to a snail could outpace the traffic flow.
what really was a omen was when our rival Mitsubishi dealership Sea Coast Mitsu went under and we got some of their invantory.Now the dealership's shut down,It was slow every day i was there.I'm glad I managed to do as well as i did.I feel like I could have done more looking back but maybe when the economic climate has recooperated and I'm out of the army maybe i'll pick this gig up again.but for now I'm doing this ARMY thing and I'll make the most out of it

Toms River Auto Mall(NJ)I got my start there,my boss was a FBI donkey's puta,Long story,I sold 5 there.What's funny was there was a Toyota Dealership directly right across the highway and due to the down hill section we were on we could see their lot and what was going on and they were ALWAYS BUSY,They STAYED Having people comming to them.

Stearns Chevy (I sold 4 there)
It was really a repeat of Mitsubishi,I was hoping I could stay for the launch of the camaro but I left cuz the commute was too long and I found something that for the most part was steady.I just might go there when I come from basic and try outa camaro to see if that'll be the one

as I've said I'm considering both foreign and domestic offerings and i have too many choices