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Michael_Js · 05-25-2010, 04:07 PM

So, if you're using a CAI that is "boxed" around the same area that the original air box was, aren't you already utilizing the air that comes in from that scoop?

CFD · 05-25-2010, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael_Js

So, if you're using a CAI that is "boxed" around the same area that the original air box was, aren't you already utilizing the air that comes in from that scoop?

My thoughts are that you are correct but I am also thinking that using the scoop and snorkel combination may help to increase the velocity of air flow, somewhat similar to ram air but to a lesser extent

bobby35ny · 05-25-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CFD

My thoughts are that you are correct but I am also thinking that using the scoop and snorkel combination may help to increase the velocity of air flow, somewhat similar to ram air but to a lesser extent

My thoughts are, It's there to lower the intake noise. There are rules for the amount of intake noise heard from outside of the car.
-bobby

JS · 05-25-2010, 05:55 PM

I am going to seal the scoop alittle better that goes to the rad support,I think alittle more 3M sided foam will seal it off...I am also looking into taking out that matte on the stock air box lid, I cant understand why its there other than to deaden sound.

Once I'm done these things I honestly believe from our testing that the SLP Blackwing tube and stock (slightly modified) air box will work pretty well.

Again will it be as good as a Halltech or VR, Probably not but I only have 165.00 into the whole shooting match..I'll put the money I save over a Halltech or VR towards my Edelbrock X-Pipe kit which will be here on Tues..

I like this info, Its good to see others interested as well
The old saying goes, "There's always another way to skin a cat"

axis · 05-26-2010, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael_Js

So, if you're using a CAI that is "boxed" around the same area that the original air box was, aren't you already utilizing the air that comes in from that scoop?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFD

My thoughts are that you are correct but I am also thinking that using the scoop and snorkel combination may help to increase the velocity of air flow, somewhat similar to ram air but to a lesser extent

Guys, if you look at the orientation of said piece, you'll notice that it doesn't open up into the stream of oncoming air. It's pointed UP so it pulls air from the top. There is no "RAM AIR" affect here or anywhere else. The AirRaid system uses the OEM snorkel to attatch to their box, so it should work exactly like the OEM box with a better filter and intake tube. Both get their air by sucking in fresh air through these two pieces.

For the SLP tube guys, I think it would be advantageous to do some cutting of the underside of the OEM box. This would open up cool air from the bottom, as well as the snorkel.

destroyerofu2 · 05-26-2010, 05:21 AM

I'm wondering with this new found information if there would be a way to run a tube from the mail slot to this intake tube and do an actual ram air.

and kudos to 2150 for the find

CFD · 05-26-2010, 06:16 AM

Again I'm not sure but I would think these cars would not run right with ram air , or at least not without a good tune, the reason I say this is if it was RAM AIR the increased amount of air and velocity of the air would probally cause undesireable MAF readings. Bringing fresh air from the mail slot or anyother outside source would have benefits by cooling the engine compartment as well as adding a supply of fresh non-heated air to the filter. This is a project I am currently working on, when a decide on the method I use I will post if anyone is interested.

destroyerofu2 · 05-26-2010, 06:25 AM

i am interested

i hate the fact that it is a nonfunctional ram air

would love to have it work
even if the car needs to be retuned after "like a turbo" for the extra air intake
Im thinking it wouldnt be that hard to plasticate (my word) a tube if it did infact help out with the intake

Apex Motorsports · 05-26-2010, 06:26 AM

The ADM Performance "Race" intake does exactly what you guys are talking about. Not only is it a full replacement for the stock air box and tubing like all the other intakes out there, but it has an additional tube that extends down and places an air scoop behind the lower front grill to feed the air box cool fresh ambient air. Its one hell of an intake system and a lot of people don't realize that the snorkel is what differentiates the ADM "Street" for the "Race".

destroyerofu2 · 05-26-2010, 06:27 AM

i would be one of the first to buy one because like i said i hate the nonfunctional mail slot

i cant even put my mail in there, theres no hole or flag

CFD · 05-26-2010, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase

The ADM Performance "Race" intake does exactly what you guys are talking about. Not only is it a full replacement for the stock air box and tubing like all the other intakes out there, but it has an additional tube that extends down and places an air scoop behind the lower front grill to feed the air box cool fresh ambient air. Its one hell of an intake system and a lot of people don't realize that the snorkel is what differentiates the ADM "Street" for the "Race".

I agree that the ADM does exactly that and is why I feel it is one of the better units out there. What I am looking to do is not so much to feed the intake as it is to cool the engine bay. The effects of doing this will also aid in air intake although not to a great extent.

camarossrs2150 · 05-26-2010, 08:29 AM

i was thinking if the mail slot had some vents in it that it would bring in some fresh air up top and flow towards this piece .so we could leave that other piece in to block out the elements and have air flowing through the vent into the piece im refering to .im not pushing that so you wont here much from me on that

axis · 05-26-2010, 10:11 AM

Go out and pop your hood up and look around. You'll see that there is absolutely no way to make the mailslot anything more than just an appearance mod. It's in front of the radiator and there's a rubber seal around the hood to prevent air/water from getting in around it. You could duct air to the plastic piece location but I doubt that would do anything more than just taking it off. If you want to feed fresh air to the "box" area, there are a couple hoods that have ducting built in that opens up above the filter area. The ADM Race version is nice but if you're interprising enough to want to build a duct from the mailslot, you could easily construct a deflector like the ADM has. There are many water bottle replacement pieces out there. Taking the waterbottle out will open up a lot more fresh air from the bottom. The question is, how much will it help. Most of the better OEM location CAI's keep your IAT's within 2-5 degrees of ambient at cruise.

camarossrs2150 · 05-26-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

Go out and pop your hood up and look around. You'll see that there is absolutely no way to make the mailslot anything more than just an appearance mod. It's in front of the radiator and there's a rubber seal around the hood to prevent air/water from getting in around it. You could duct air to the plastic piece location but I doubt that would do anything more than just taking it off. If you want to feed fresh air to the "box" area, there are a couple hoods that have ducting built in that opens up above the filter area. The ADM Race version is nice but if you're interprising enough to want to build a duct from the mailslot, you could easily construct a deflector like the ADM has. There are many water bottle replacement pieces out there. Taking the waterbottle out will open up a lot more fresh air from the bottom. The question is, how much will it help. Most of the better OEM location CAI's keep your IAT's within 2-5 degrees of ambient at cruise.

ok mailslot is a no go thanks

05-25-2010, 04:07 PM	#71
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,298 View My Garage	So, if you're using a CAI that is "boxed" around the same area that the original air box was, aren't you already utilizing the air that comes in from that scoop? __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

05-25-2010, 05:55 PM	#74
JS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Phila,Pa. Posts: 557	I am going to seal the scoop alittle better that goes to the rad support,I think alittle more 3M sided foam will seal it off...I am also looking into taking out that matte on the stock air box lid, I cant understand why its there other than to deaden sound. Once I'm done these things I honestly believe from our testing that the SLP Blackwing tube and stock (slightly modified) air box will work pretty well. Again will it be as good as a Halltech or VR, Probably not but I only have 165.00 into the whole shooting match..I'll put the money I save over a Halltech or VR towards my Edelbrock X-Pipe kit which will be here on Tues.. I like this info, Its good to see others interested as well The old saying goes, "There's always another way to skin a cat" __________________ SOLD 2010 Camaro 1SS/A6 12.59@111.31 Magnaflow Magnapack Axleback & Resonated X-Pipe/OBX LT Headers/Airaid Cold Air Kit/Injection Connection Tuned

05-26-2010, 08:29 AM	#82
camarossrs2150 Drives: abm2ssrs Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: still out of my mind Posts: 2,095	i was thinking if the mail slot had some vents in it that it would bring in some fresh air up top and flow towards this piece .so we could leave that other piece in to block out the elements and have air flowing through the vent into the piece im refering to .im not pushing that so you wont here much from me on that __________________ [SIGPIC]

05-26-2010, 10:11 AM	#83
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	Go out and pop your hood up and look around. You'll see that there is absolutely no way to make the mailslot anything more than just an appearance mod. It's in front of the radiator and there's a rubber seal around the hood to prevent air/water from getting in around it. You could duct air to the plastic piece location but I doubt that would do anything more than just taking it off. If you want to feed fresh air to the "box" area, there are a couple hoods that have ducting built in that opens up above the filter area. The ADM Race version is nice but if you're interprising enough to want to build a duct from the mailslot, you could easily construct a deflector like the ADM has. There are many water bottle replacement pieces out there. Taking the waterbottle out will open up a lot more fresh air from the bottom. The question is, how much will it help. Most of the better OEM location CAI's keep your IAT's within 2-5 degrees of ambient at cruise. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

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05-26-2010, 06:16 AM	#77
CFD Drives: 2SS/RS L99 BLACK Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Franklin , MA Posts: 6,696	Again I'm not sure but I would think these cars would not run right with ram air , or at least not without a good tune, the reason I say this is if it was RAM AIR the increased amount of air and velocity of the air would probally cause undesireable MAF readings. Bringing fresh air from the mail slot or anyother outside source would have benefits by cooling the engine compartment as well as adding a supply of fresh non-heated air to the filter. This is a project I am currently working on, when a decide on the method I use I will post if anyone is interested.

05-26-2010, 06:26 AM	#79
Apex Motorsports Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky. Posts: 25,165	The ADM Performance "Race" intake does exactly what you guys are talking about. Not only is it a full replacement for the stock air box and tubing like all the other intakes out there, but it has an additional tube that extends down and places an air scoop behind the lower front grill to feed the air box cool fresh ambient air. Its one hell of an intake system and a lot of people don't realize that the snorkel is what differentiates the ADM "Street" for the "Race".