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Old 12-20-2012, 07:53 PM   #827
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If I actually get time off next week, I'll be updating Chakita's build thread with all of the information and updating my Build Book. Been so busy last few weeks haven't had time to be on the forum except for a few minutes here and there.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:28 PM   #828
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The V8's dont seem to pull timing on the dyno like the LLT does. We can log on the dyno and see it pulltiming due to some resounance or hrmonic the Bosch ECU thinks is spark knock and pulls timing, so getting any accurate #'s is difficult. Missionboi's shop he uses is able to make their dyno read accurate, but most dont.

We then go on the street and do pulls and no timing is pulled so it is weird as heck.

Wowwww so that's what's been goin on. Thanks for the info that's actually really interesting!
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:29 PM   #829
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Here's what I don't understand. Lets assume what you're saying is correct, why does the LLT seem to dyno fine with bolt ons? Everyone is seeing around the same hp and there does not seem to be any issues dynoing. However all of the FI guys are apparently seeing issues. Except for IPF, they claim there is no issue. Assuming that, it would lead me to think either the cars just really aren't making that great of power or I'm not understanding the issue.

It just seems weird to me that all of the bolt on cars dyno fine. Mine did and I made hp around what I expected. However now that I am FI it magically has issues on the dyno? Perhaps I do not fully understand the issue.

I will say I think there is something up with V6owner and my car. We dyno low but are running 12.9 & 13.0 respectively.

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I wouldnt say it dynos fine with bolt ons, for instance 312 hp crank should dyno around 250-260 stock. so with intake, tune, ported tb, headers wouldnt you think more would dyno in the 280's with that combo? add ported manifold and even more i would think. however most with that combo dyno in the 270 range. so they do all these bolt ons and only get 15-20 peak rwhp over where a stock LLT should dyno? doesnt add up to me.

also if stock 1/4 mile is 14.1 and you roughly cut your times by a tenth of a second with every 10 horsepower gained, yet bmore dynoned 280 on e85 and yet ran a 13.5 on stock wheels. cutting 6/10's of a second off a stock quarter mile. but only dyno'd 20-30 more horsepower then what we "should" dyno at stock.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:05 PM   #830
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The best dyno to date for the LLT is the button dyno lol. I also agree that the dyno num efs don't add up with the times that are being ran. Cant no dyno made reproduce actual road testing.

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Old 12-31-2012, 05:40 PM   #831
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Old 12-31-2012, 05:52 PM   #832
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Old 12-31-2012, 06:29 PM   #833
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My thinking is the headers are causing a false knock. The factory manifold cars seem to dyno mostly fine.

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Here's what I don't understand. Lets assume what you're saying is correct, why does the LLT seem to dyno fine with bolt ons? Everyone is seeing around the same hp and there does not seem to be any issues dynoing. However all of the FI guys are apparently seeing issues. Except for IPF, they claim there is no issue. Assuming that, it would lead me to think either the cars just really aren't making that great of power or I'm not understanding the issue.

It just seems weird to me that all of the bolt on cars dyno fine. Mine did and I made hp around what I expected. However now that I am FI it magically has issues on the dyno? Perhaps I do not fully understand the issue.

I will say I think there is something up with V6owner and my car. We dyno low but are running 12.9 & 13.0 respectively.

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Old 12-31-2012, 08:00 PM   #834
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Been a little slow last couple of weeks finishing up the last few details. I hear Matt has the mustang up and running in the new shop so that's a plus. Getting excited on this being wrapped up - want to drive the beastess and do my laps at COTA.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:58 PM   #835
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All this waiting baffle's me. I know it is a R&D project but man what is this five months and counting?

I don't know how you guys do it. I would never be able to go thatlong with out my car.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:31 AM   #836
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Lol. It's definitely been a while but it's all good. Tracy is finishing up the last details and then back on the dyno for the final session. Lookin real good. When we 're happy with the final brine and numbers - we'll post a major update.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:19 PM   #837
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Hey mate, how is your car going? Too much driving and less typing now?

I just got my final updated tune from Vince and it has fixed my issue with the p2189 error code. I dont have to worry anymore about connecting my phone with the torque app and deleting the error code.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:29 PM   #838
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:01 AM   #839
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