2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Wow...this is just plain silly to say mph doesnt matter. MPH shows what the car is CAPABLE of ET wise with a decent short time.

116mph will only be good for mid 11's AT BEST. More like high 11's on average.

127-129mph on the other hand will put u in solid 10's!!!

So basically a FULL second.

Again thats HUGE.

Ok you take the 500 running 2.xx 60' times that only were achieved with their best shoe driving the car, I'll take the auto equipped ZL1 cutting 1.70-1.80 60' times and we will see which car driven by the average driver reaches the clocks 1st. But hey when the mph car looses he can still brag well my car should be faster than yours

Also where is this 127-129 mph run, I'll call BS just as the SVT gang did on just about every fast 1/4 pass to date for the ZL1. Also do any of you really believe that Evan was given the car that was completely heat soaked and flat worn out for this event, when he is considered by Ford and all the mags as being the best driver out of the bunch? Just too funny.

The 500 better best the 11:81s numbers otherwise it's a fail to have 120 hp & 90 lb tq, more than the 2012 version and only gained a little over a tenth to the 12's numbers.

Just trying to pay the 500 the same respect that was payed to the ZL1

[HPT BANDIT]

Originally Posted by oortcloud

Brag about my MRC? I guess you're implying its indeed superior and worth bragging about

No, I just want owners to put themselves on a pedestal and then watch as it gets kicked out from under him.

[HPT BANDIT]

Originally Posted by ChuckD

ZL1 has reached supercar status on the track - with no track pack - all standard equipment.

Now it's a supercar? What the hell are they putting in the Kool-Aid?

[GMRULZ]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

No need to get into all that since from the start u said basically exactly what i said. Shoulda woulda COULDA (can) meaning capable. Thats all i was saying is what the car would be capable of.

Also you know damn well 116 in a car like the ZL1 will not get you a 11sec slip 99% of the time. Especially with a M6. Mid 12's on average and low 12's at best with a high 11 hero run here and there.

Yes a properly set up car just for the dragstrip can run mid and high 11's @ 116mph but not ZL1.

I ran 11.6@117 but that was with big and littles. No sway bars. Slicks. 3200 stall and 1.5 sixty foot. No ZL1 off the showroom floor will run a 11.6@117.

Of course its capable. however how many will be able to do it? Not most. Which is what i said. 127-129 mph manual cars are a very rare breed that also run 10`s et wise. maybe 1 in 50.

I never said a zl-1 is a mid 11 second car, not even the automatic. but then neither is the new gt-500 in the hands of 99% of the drivers they will face on the dragstrip. The auto ZL-1 cars are going to beat the GT500`s stock for stock most times at the dragstrip w/ avaerage drivers in both cars. The ZL`s will run 11.9 to 12.1`s all day long, the average GT-500 driver? Probably 12.3 to 12.5 w/ a higher mph...Lol..Of course some will go faster but you give people to much credit for their driving ability..

By the way, nice time in your ride.

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by GMRULZ

Ok, I`ll bite, mph is coulda, shoulda, woulda... I have run so many cars who out mph me in the 1/4 and I out ET them. Its all about the setup and putting power to the ground as well as power under the curve when drag racing. How many Supra`s making 1k hp have you seen running 11.00`s at 150 mph? I have seen 3. Not because they are spinning off the line either. Sure tires will help the 500 but you have to be able to drive it at that power level and the setup makes a huge deal. I ran w/ in 4 tenths ( he ran 10.46@14x) of a 2010 800rwhp shelby 500 that had a drag race setup and hooked it for that run. That was his best run of the day, most of his runs were in the 10.7`s. I have beat several other Shelby`s w/ 100+ more rwhp than me. The 800rwhp one is the only one to beat me so far at my local track here in VA. It only took him 264 more rwhp to beat me by 4 tenths. If I was at 600rwhp I would have beat him easy.

The ZL1 comes in automatic and the 500 doesn`t, and I think the average ZL1 driver in an automatic car will beat the average 2013 GT driver, stock for stock 9 times out of 10 down the 1/4 mile. Now this is just my opinion we will have to wait and see if this bears fruit or not. Manaul zl-1 I do think the 500 will win.

127-129mph on a manual car does not put 99% of drivers in the 10`s, automatic car yes, manual no.


I`m not all that impressed w/ the 2013 500, they basicly just turned the boost up, you could have done that w/ the previous model, yes I know the motors diff, and there are other improvements, but you are not going to be able to add much boost percentage wise to the 2013 like you did with the previous models over the stock level. I also understan d this 5.8 has more compression. 2012 guys don`t run out and trade your 500`s in in my opinion. But then I`m not at all impressed w/ the ZL1`s 1/4 mile abilities either.

Personally I think take a 5.0 boost it or take a SS and boost it. faster, lot less money, if you want a mmmm1/4 mile car. But thats just me , I don`t like being parted from my dollars.

mph shows how brutally fast the car is. The et just shows how well you were able to handleit in relation to mph. You can run a quicker time occasionally with the slower car, but that will never make it faster. That mph translates to power and acceleration even in everyday driving, especially on the freeway. If you take 2 cars and one traps almost 10mph slower than the other, its going to feel quite underwhelming by comparison and you dont need the scrutiny of a track or stopwatch to tell the difference.

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by GMRULZ

Of course its capable. however how many will be able to do it? Not most. Which is what i said. 127-129 mph manual cars are a very rare breed that also run 10`s et wise. maybe 1 in 50.

I never said a zl-1 is a mid 11 second car, not even the automatic. but then neither is the new gt-500 in the hands of 99% of the drivers they will face on the dragstrip. The auto ZL-1 cars are going to beat the GT500`s stock for stock most times at the dragstrip w/ avaerage drivers in both cars. The ZL`s will run 11.9 to 12.1`s all day long, the average GT-500 driver? Probably 12.3 to 12.5 w/ a higher mph...Lol..Of course some will go faster but you give people to much credit for their driving ability..

By the way, nice time in your ride.

Not counting gm's own video (that doesnt even show the runs and is contrary to what people that were actually there are saying), how many auto zl1's have been running 11.9's "all day long" exactly???

[SIRLOIN]

Originally Posted by MauriSSio

Not counting gm's own video (that doesnt even show the runs and is contrary to what people that were actually there are saying), how many auto zl1's have been running 11.9's "all day long" exactly???

^^^This^^^ More like 12.4,12.6 all day long...

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by GMRULZ

Of course its capable. however how many will be able to do it? Not most. Which is what i said. 127-129 mph manual cars are a very rare breed that also run 10`s et wise. maybe 1 in 50.

I never said a zl-1 is a mid 11 second car, not even the automatic. but then neither is the new gt-500 in the hands of 99% of the drivers they will face on the dragstrip. The auto ZL-1 cars are going to beat the GT500`s stock for stock most times at the dragstrip w/ avaerage drivers in both cars. The ZL`s will run 11.9 to 12.1`s all day long, the average GT-500 driver? Probably 12.3 to 12.5 w/ a higher mph...Lol..Of course some will go faster but you give people to much credit for their driving ability..

By the way, nice time in your ride.

I totally agree with everything you said except the part of ZL1's running 11.9's all day. Its only been a claim from GM so far. Other than that the car is a mid 12sec car all day.

Thanx for the props man!! I think its a respectable time for the car considering the weight and mods or lack there of.

If thats your car in your avatar that thing is leaving HARD!

[SIRLOIN]

Originally Posted by GMRULZ

Of course its capable. however how many will be able to do it? Not most. Which is what i said. 127-129 mph manual cars are a very rare breed that also run 10`s et wise. maybe 1 in 50.

I never said a zl-1 is a mid 11 second car, not even the automatic. but then neither is the new gt-500 in the hands of 99% of the drivers they will face on the dragstrip. The auto ZL-1 cars are going to beat the GT500`s stock for stock most times at the dragstrip w/ avaerage drivers in both cars. The ZL`s will run 11.9 to 12.1`s all day long, the average GT-500 driver? Probably 12.3 to 12.5 w/ a higher mph...Lol..Of course some will go faster but you give people to much credit for their driving ability..

By the way, nice time in your ride.

Riiiiiight!... Show me one ZL1 that has run those times AT ALL let alone "all day long"?

Now show me one time on the first day of the Shelby hitting the strip by mostly weak ass magazine drivers, with heat soaked cars hitting anything close to as high as the ZL1 times we are seeing?

Your gonna sit there and say that these two cars are a drivers race? REALLY?...

[2010-1SS-IBM]

I could care less which ones faster, they're both damn good cars. I just wanted to point out the hypocrisy of the Ford guys while they're crowing about the GT500. We all know they pissed on the ZL1's release.

[ffrcobra_65]

The thing is, the Snake comes with 662hp, and you cant get that in the ZL1 without spending more $ and blowing the warranty. Also, it seems it's putting enough of it to the ground unlike every anti-gt500 was saying it couldn't and it was still going to be slower than the ZL1. Time to admit it folks.

[BATMAN!]

By the way where are those guys (lowdown and goldenbear?) that had so much to say before.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by BATMAN!

By the way where are those guys (lowdown and goldenbear?) that had so much to say before.

Resting on a belly full of crows.

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by BATMAN!

By the way where are those guys (lowdown and goldenbear?) that had so much to say before.

Probably coming up with a new logic test to help us poor idiots try to understand their infinitely superior minds. Really, us mere mortals should be lucky they take the time to educate us.