Still no SC for V6 eh?

[jagan323]

Originally Posted by Mach

Dont do it man.. Keep the 6. The money you will lose with a trade will be a nice turbo down the line. Also, you can get a z28 front bumper and you will have the sickest camaro around.

It will be nice to get 25mpg when staying out of boost and still have all that HP when you need it.

lol, good point here! Nah I wasn't going to give up the V6 that easily LOL. I was just kidding =p Okay, but I will be patient for something good... hopefully some FI option will come out in the next year or two, so I can begin planning

[jimmyh]

I initially was planning on an SS. But when I considered how quick the LT is, and the good fuel economy, it was hard to resist.

Putting FI onto the V6 is just going to bring you around to SS level performance and fuel economy though. So why not just get an SS in the first place? It would be more reliable and won't mess up your warranty.

[jagan323]

lol............... okay, first off, getting the V6 to FI isn't just to be as good as a V8. That's not really the point... I guess most people dont understand.. it's actually about pushing the V6 and what the V6 can do. Scrming says this all the time "It's a V6 thing".

If you are a V6, you shouldn't have to ask why I didn't get an SS lol.

And I'm joking about getting an SS, not because of its power, but because of its options. I just want the V6 to have the same LOVE! =(

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by jimmyh

I initially was planning on an SS. But when I considered how quick the LT is, and the good fuel economy, it was hard to resist.

Putting FI onto the V6 is just going to bring you around to SS level performance and fuel economy though. So why not just get an SS in the first place? It would be more reliable and won't mess up your warranty.

Actually, TT could easily get you 425+ to the wheels on the V6. That's what the stock SS does at the crank. They would have to do more than simple bolt ons/tune to get that kinda power and the V6 would have a broader power band. If you were willing to invest in HD tranny/diff, better fuel delivery and beefed up internals you could go well beyond 425 to the wheels. You'd have a very fast car with good gas milage when you weren't pushing it. Best of both worlds.

[SDCamaro10]

Man you guys didnt read the thread I made huh?? lol..

Something is in the works for a possible TT.. give it some time.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by SDCamaro10

Man you guys didnt read the thread I made huh?? lol..

Something is in the works for a possible TT.. give it some time.

Actually I did. I though it was good. It is just a lot of us are frustrated because we have put our eggs in one basket several times just to see it get dropped (D3, LP, ect...). It just seems like those of us willing to go out and do it ourselves and share the knowledge will show manufacturers that it is doable and profitable. Here's hoping any ways

Keep us informed on your thread. I'm going to start my own when I get further along and we can compare notes . After all, if we don't do it then no one will.

[Maurdib]

Originally Posted by jimmyh

I initially was planning on an SS. But when I considered how quick the LT is, and the good fuel economy, it was hard to resist.

Putting FI onto the V6 is just going to bring you around to SS level performance and fuel economy though. So why not just get an SS in the first place? It would be more reliable and won't mess up your warranty.

QUE, I always heard and both Z and Jimmy saw their fueld economy raise with a turbo kit, They may be at 31 to 32 now, Where did you here it would go down?

[GretchenGotGrowl]

It all depends on how you tune it. If you go small turbos and try for low-end boost you are going to lower MPG (more air requires more fuel). However, if you tune the boost to come one around 3K RPM, then moderate driving won't get you in the high air flow range. With cooling of the charge, it is safe to run a slighly leaner tune at these low RPMs, so you get better fuel ecomomy.

[jimmyh]

I have never seen anyone add FI and not take a fuel economy hit. Whether you are using the power or not, you are still altering your fuel map. Then of course there is the extra hardware (plumbing on a turbo, pully on an SC) which introduces mechanical losses, and of course the extra weight. In most cases, the losses are worth it because you are going for performance. But for those who are looking to add power to a DD, think about what you are doing. Any time you start working with add-ons, you are introducing the possibility of problems, both initially and later on.

There is a reason they call it mod-hell

[mike25]

Originally Posted by jimmyh

I have never seen anyone add FI and not take a fuel economy hit. Whether you are using the power or not, you are still altering your fuel map. Then of course there is the extra hardware (plumbing on a turbo, pully on an SC) which introduces mechanical losses, and of course the extra weight. In most cases, the losses are worth it because you are going for performance. But for those who are looking to add power to a DD, think about what you are doing. Any time you start working with add-ons, you are introducing the possibility of problems, both initially and later on.

There is a reason they call it mod-hell

If your not seeing even a slightest gain in economy...then something hasn't been done right. Every kit I've seen built that wasn't an all out drag type setup( superstar turbos etc) has gained increased economy when driven conservatively

[SDCamaro10]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Actually I did. I though it was good. It is just a lot of us are frustrated because we have put our eggs in one basket several times just to see it get dropped (D3, LP, ect...). It just seems like those of us willing to go out and do it ourselves and share the knowledge will show manufacturers that it is doable and profitable. Here's hoping any ways

Keep us informed on your thread. I'm going to start my own when I get further along and we can compare notes . After all, if we don't do it then no one will.

Indeed. It may take some time but we'll start to see many more options out there. once i get something concrete.. i'll start a new thread.

Originally Posted by mike25

If your not seeing even a slightest gain in economy...then something hasn't been done right. Every kit I've seen built that wasn't an all out drag type setup( superstar turbos etc) has gained increased economy when driven conservatively

I do have to agree with this, Besides my old 1992 buick century custom.. this is the only car ive had that didnt have a turbo on it. I always saw a boost in fuel economy, paired with conservative driving. keep the pedal mashed and yeah i see you losing a few mpg's haha. But yeah, overall turbos make the car run more efficiently and when used conservatively, provides a decent boost in fuel economy as well.

[Mach]

I love it how everyone here is a FI DI V6 expert..

[mike25]

Originally Posted by Mach

I love it how everyone here is a FI DI V6 expert..

Useless comment.

[Mach]

Originally Posted by mike25

Useless comment.

True