Torn between 2011 Camaro and 2011 Mustang GT, Someone help me decide

[IROCTPI]

Originally Posted by Mr Monte

I test drove the 11 Mustang GT($37,500), 11 Camaro SS($38,500) & 10 Challenger SRT8($37,000 after $8,000 discount off MSRP) within 2hr of each other. Looks is a personal choice so buy to impress yourself not others. I like the looks of all 3 except the ugly butt of the Mustang.

For me the hype of the new 5.0 in the Mustang turned into disapointment on the test drives. I drove both the auto & the manual. The 5.0 is a beast in the upper rpms but lackluster as a daily driver. Drive it like you stole it & it is the fastest(manual) & most nimble of the 3. Below 3,000 rpms the 10 Mustang GT with the 4.6 actually has more power than the 11 Mustang GT with the 5.0.

The Camaro SS had the most power down low but runs out of power too soon. I rented a Camaro for a week & had no issues with the blind spots, that's what the side mirrors are for. I didn't like how low you sit in the car compared to the top of the door and it was hard to see the speedo. The HUD for 2011 Camaro fixed that issue. I thought the interior in the Camaro was a bit nicer than the Mustang.

What I've found people either love or hate the look of the new Camaro. What grabs your eye more, a Mustang or a Camaro when one goes by?

How much time at the track do you plan on driving your car? Mustang is a better track car but the Camaro is a better street car.

The Mustang is smaller so it's easier to park if that matters.

V6 or V8? If the tones of the exhaust matters don't settle for the V6. You will regret it. If not, the V6s are faster than most of the previous V8s, handle better & get better MPG.

I ended up buying my wife a new 10 Mustang GT ($9,250 off MSRP) that was $5K cheaper than the 11 Mustang V6s on the lot.
I ended up buying myself a new 10 Challenger SRT8 which ended up being alot faster than I thought they were do to all the antihype. My best stock 1/4 was 12.89@107.5.

Im sorry to go off topic but just wanted to say "HI" to another Oregon member Im from tigard, maybe i'll see one of your rides around some time

[IROCTPI]

I read the whole thread, but no one mentioned about warranty/dealers say if something DOES go wrong with your (enter your new beatiful ride here)

Iv noticed that alot of camaro owners complain about how the dealers treat them, which is obvious that not all dealers are going be that way, but it seems like alot of people have been screwed over by GM themself, Could the current gen mustang owners of this board tell us their opinion on Fords service?

I just think something should be mentioned about this, thanks.

[Mr Monte]

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

What I took away from that: in order to sell a 2010 GT or 2010 SRT8 you must take $8,000+ off MSRP. If they won't sell...give them away??

J/K that's a beautiful Challenger in your sig and an exceptional price.

I sat down to buy a new Camaro armed with a $1,000 customer loyalty check, my son's employee discount or possibly my work's discount. End result the Camaro was excluded from the check and all I could get was $750 off MSRP. I'll probably wait for the Gen6 Camaro unless I see a deal I can't refuse.

A year before I bought the SRT8 the dealer wanted $20,000 ABOVE MSRP FIRM. It's a nice car but not that nice.

The give away worked for me

[ebaugh1990]

I went to Garber Auto Mall today. I test drove a 2011 v6 Camaro w/Manual 6, 2011 a Camaro SS with Auto 6, 2011 Mustang GT with manual 6, 2011 Mustang V6 with manual 6, and I went to Beck dodge in my home town to test a 2010 Challenger R/T with Manual 6.

This is all my own opinion and MY reviews of all the cars I listed. I am Biased being im in favor of GM with my history with them. But here it goes.

The v6 camaro: The interior was awesome, like being in a space ship that has gone back in time. The gauges really did look amazing, like retro styling that I loved. Im about average height, 5'7", and I didnt really have any problems seeing out of the Camaro. To me, the V6 was nice, it was pretty damn quick. And the yellow color i had with the black stock rims was a cool combo.

The Camaro SS: I LOVED that 400+ HP at my foot, I wish i would have been able to drive the manual 6 since thats what id buy if i bought one, but oh well, still an amazing car. pretty much the same review as the v6 except in the SS i liked the extra 4 gauges in the middle, that was a cool place for them. Also, the V8 power was just exciting as hell. I was impressed since i enjoyed it a lot more than I thought i would.

Mustang GT: Where should I start, Ill give some Pros and cons. Pros-it felt a lot better than the one i tested before. It shifted smoothly, the engine sounded amazing, and the interior was a step up from what i drove before. Cons- it didnt "feel" like a muscle Car, it felt like a sports car. The feeling of a sports car was definitely NOT what I wanted, I wanted a Muscle car. IMO the style of the 05-09 mustangs were the best, they looked more like the older ones. Although i was pissed when we were driving through the city that skip shift crap came in and it made me shift from 1st to 4th. Whoever thought of this bullsh*t doesnt need to make cars.

Mudtang V6: The 6 speed in this one shifted really smooth too, but i just had way more fun in the v6 camaro. thats pretty much it, the test drive in the v6 mustang didn't last more than 10 minutes before i turned around and took it back to the dealer.

Challenger R/T: Im not trying to make anyone mad here, but out of all the previous cars i enjoyed the Challenger the most. The V8 Hemi sounded like pure sex under the hood. I liked it more being able to drive through my own town since thats what id be doing with it anyway. Going through the gears I never let skip shift kick in, I drove it like a bat out of hell. We stopped at a stop light and this was the only salesman that would let me do a burnout. He just told me, drive it how you would if you bought it, i wont say anything(it also helped that he used to be my roomate a while back). So when i knew the light was about to turn green I just started power braking. After letting off some smoke I gradually began rolling. I was just hoping no cops would pull me over, and of course i thought of this after doing smoking the tires. Anyway, long story short we test drove the car for about an hour. I felt the exterior was closest to the old muscle cars than any of the others. BUT, with that said, the interior made my skin crawl. I hated that it was just so....plain.

My conclusion: Im not going to touch a mustang again, don't care for the new ones, they don't do.....well anything for me. The Challenger was a lot of fun, but I can't get over that interior. Maybe Ill test a 2011 Challenger when they come out. As for right now, the Camaro is my best choice. The exterior is something else, its not sporty, its more muscle than the Mustang. The Camaro compared to the Challenger is a lot faster of course, but I don't go to the track and I wont be racing my car. So speed isn't an issue, I care more about looks and sound than anything else. It is a close choice between the Challenger and the Camaro. Right now Im going for the Camaro unless the Challanger decides to change the interior to something more of my taste. I've also though about aftermarket. The Camaro is well supported as far as far as engine mods i.e. Cams and other internals. To put a bigger more lopey cam in a challenger you pretty much have to have an SRT8.

Final decision, Camaro all the way.

[SummoneR]

ebaugh1990, I completely agree with you on the Challenger, the exterior is HAWT! Love the full Retro styling! The interior... I've said it before, but I'll say it again... Why in the H$%% did they make the interior look just like a Charger, or a Magnum or the Chrysler 300C... they all share the same basic interior... a huge fail in my eyes in making the challenger a contender with that regard. Had they done something special with the interior, to set it apart from all their other vehicles like they did with the exterior, I would have sold my FJ and bought one of them too. ha ha.

[ebaugh1990]

Originally Posted by SummoneR

ebaugh1990, I completely agree with you on the Challenger, the exterior is HAWT! Love the full Retro styling! The interior... I've said it before, but I'll say it again... Why in the H$%% did they make the interior look just like a Charger, or a Magnum or the Chrysler 300C... they all share the same basic interior... a huge fail in my eyes in making the challenger a contender with that regard. Had they done something special with the interior, to set it apart from all their other vehicles like they did with the exterior, I would have sold my FJ and bought one of them too. ha ha.

I hear ya, I also can't stand that they don't even offer a 6 gauge cluster. After an oil change I like to make sure my engine has good oil pressure. I guess I'm just being picky, but I like gauges, gauges that tell me more about the status of my vehicle. I went to dodge dot com and looked at the interior of the 2011 challenger but it still looks plain. Still has 4 gauges and thats pretty much it. It seems like all dodge did was spend a lot of time on the exterior and then when it came to designing the interior they just said F*CK IT, make it look like the Charger, I mean no ones ever complained about the interior before so lets just make it look like 3 other vehicles! lol

Anyway, yeah the Camaro may cost me more but It would be worht it. I actually found for my age that a 2011 Camaro SS is cheaper on insurance than a 2007 Mustang GT. I guess State Farm likes Camaros lol

[SummoneR]

Yeah I got a quote from State Farm for mine before I bought it and it was really cheap I called up my insurance and told them the quote, so they matched =)

[ebaugh1990]

Originally Posted by SummoneR

Yeah I got a quote from State Farm for mine before I bought it and it was really cheap I called up my insurance and told them the quote, so they matched =)

It also helps I'm under my dads policy, my insurance is in my name, I'm just on my dads account. So i get all the discounts he gets.

[SummoneR]

That's good! I'm 33, mine went down substantially when I turned 30 or 32... something like that. So my 2000 Mustang GT was crazy expensive (I was 23 at the time) compaired to my Camaro.

[ebaugh1990]

I hear ya man. Yeah I cant wait, it will take me about 3-4 months before Ill be able to buy my camaro though. I want just a base 1SS, the base 1SS comes with the 4 gauges in the console right? Anyway, im going to finance through my credit union, they want 20% down because of my credit. I may try my other credit union, 20% just seems like a ton of money to put down. I wanna finance through my bank since i an go to a dealer and get a car way under MSRP.

[IROCTPI]

Im not trying to piss off any camaro owners, but honestly, it seems like you REALLY liked the challenger, if i was you, I would wait tell you can get a good look at the 2011 challengers, You should get the car you like the most, but remember tho, the most time you will be spending with the car is driving it, so like you said, dont skimp out on the interior when deciding the car you want, good luck

[SummoneR]

Originally Posted by ebaugh1990

I hear ya man. Yeah I cant wait, it will take me about 3-4 months before Ill be able to buy my camaro though. I want just a base 1SS, the base 1SS comes with the 4 gauges in the console right? Anyway, im going to finance through my credit union, they want 20% down because of my credit. I may try my other credit union, 20% just seems like a ton of money to put down. I wanna finance through my bank since i an go to a dealer and get a car way under MSRP.

Awesome well best of luck!!
1SS does not come with the 4 pack gauges, but you can always ask the dealer to install them and include it in your financing if you wish, or pay to have it done later, or just buy the part and do it yourself. It's a pretty easy install if the dealer ask a lot over what it would cost to buy.
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/results...umber=92247188
$325 for the part.

Also later on you can add leather easy enough and tons of aftermarket Ambient Lighting compatible or just painted to match door panels to switch out the stock cloth. You can also buy the PDIM so you can connect your iPod or MP3 player to the car too. You can pretty much do everything thats on the 2SS later when you get the money. The 1SS does not come with the Boston Acoustic stereo, but again you can upgrade all that at a later time for something better. In a way I wish I had got the 1SS and done all the upgrades myself. Hind site is always 20/20

[ebaugh1990]

Originally Posted by IROCTPI

Im not trying to piss off any camaro owners, but honestly, it seems like you REALLY liked the challenger, if i was you, I would wait tell you can get a good look at the 2011 challengers, You should get the car you like the most, but remember tho, the most time you will be spending with the car is driving it, so like you said, dont skimp out on the interior when deciding the car you want, good luck

That's actually a good point. The thing is that even the 6 speed manual hemi v8's in the R/T models have VVT technology. So if i wanted to cam the engine i'd be limited to cams that boost performance but lack the lopey 60's car idle. I want a car I can mod and enjoy driving. You make a good point, since it will take me a few months to even get enough money to put down on the car the 2011 Challengers will be out. At my dealer there is already a 2011 Challenger SE in transit to them. Just for kicks I was gonna check out the new V6 with 6-speed auto

[SummoneR]

Originally Posted by IROCTPI

Im not trying to piss off any camaro owners, but honestly, it seems like you REALLY liked the challenger, if i was you, I would wait tell you can get a good look at the 2011 challengers, You should get the car you like the most, but remember tho, the most time you will be spending with the car is driving it, so like you said, dont skimp out on the interior when deciding the car you want, good luck

Honestly I think that's due to him being able to drive it with some spirit. LOL

Test drive the Camaro the same way, turn off traction and stability control (press and hold the traction control button for 10 seconds), get up to about 4500-5000 RPM in first gear then hit second gear floor it and feel your head sink into the head rest WOOO OAHAHA HWOWOWHAH!!!