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Old 02-28-2011, 05:16 PM   #85
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would be cool to get an injen intake to dyno at the same time as this one...
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This does seem to be the comparison that most of you want to see. Personally, I don't see Vararam funding the dyno time to do this though.
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Old 02-28-2011, 05:20 PM   #86
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yeah but if the dyno turned out good for the varam then the sales would double or triple
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Old 02-28-2011, 05:24 PM   #87
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yeah but if the dyno turned out good for the varam then the sales would double or triple
i know i'd sell my injen for it! lol
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Old 02-28-2011, 05:26 PM   #88
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yeah but if the dyno turned out good for the varam then the sales would double or triple
Possibly but not my call or on my dime. This would have to come from Vararam.

But, there will always be people claiming that Vararam rigged the results if it comes out of ahead of everything else, including Injen. Heck, people claimed bias in the independent testing that Jannetty Racing did even though they published everything and had no horse in the race themselves.
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:25 PM   #89
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the thing is many people including me will not buy this intake unless they have some sort of confirmation that this actually produces decent power otherwise how do we know if it even increases hp ?

shouldnt they have dynod it already to see if it works well?


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Old 02-28-2011, 06:44 PM   #90
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So, let's get this straight. Vararam wants to sell an intake system that costs more than the others and not spend a couple bucks on a dyno to give confirmation that it works better than the others even when if it was significantly better they'd see people flocking to it?
The electric supercharger is looking better all the time.
I'll stay with what I've got unless you can make more than a claim it does any better. If you look at Jannety's test they were all within a few hp of each other. Why give that up for the same performance that'll cost more?
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:54 PM   #91
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the thing is many people including me will not buy this intake unless they have some sort of confirmation that this actually produces decent power otherwise how do we know if it even increases hp ?

shouldnt they have dynod it already to see if it works well?

thanks for helping me with my questions rolnslo

Have you checked out their site? http://www.vararam.com

Vararam does do dyno testing on their intakes and they post performance improvement numbers when they release products for sale so you know what you'll be getting. I don't expect them to release any performance numbers until they are 100% certain they found as much power as possible from this intake on the V6 Camaro.

Do any other manufacturers back up their kits with a Performance Guarantee? http://www.vararam.com/performanceguarantee.html

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At Vararam we have always backed all of our products with a form of guarantee whether it be a performance increase, fuel mileage or Horsepower. We test our products against our competitors products almost every day to verify there performance. We use the latest in data acquisition systems to monitor our systems efficiency. Each product has its own guarantee, simply check each product for its individual performance guarantee. We are the only company in the industry that stands behind the products we manufacture in this way, our priority is our customers complete satisfaction from purchase to service after the sale, we stand behind what we manufacture.


I know I may sound like I work for them or am just pushing info because I have this intake on my car right now but let me be clear on this...

Until I found out they needed installation pictures to use in the installation guide, I had never contacted them at all. I'd been waiting for them to release something, like most of you, so I could compare it to the other options out there but I certainly didn't have my mind dead set of buying from them. Now that I've been running with their intake on my Camaro and have seen first hand their level of dedication to achieving maximum gains with this engine, I can't see any good reason to go with a different intake. My Camaro is running the best it ever has and power output throughout the entire RPM range is solid and consistent, unlike my stock intake. Some of you may think I'm just saying this so that I'll come out of this process with a free intake but, you know what, I'm going to pay for mine out of my own pocket when this is over with. I won't take one for free, nor do I expect one. But I can assure you that Vararam will be getting my money for one of these intakes once they are available for everyone to buy.

You have my word on that.
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:00 PM   #92
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makes sense


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Old 02-28-2011, 07:27 PM   #93
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Have you checked out their site? http://www.vararam.com

Vararam does do dyno testing on their intakes and they post performance improvement numbers when they release products for sale so you know what you'll be getting. I don't expect them to release any performance numbers until they are 100% certain they found as much power as possible from this intake on the V6 Camaro.

Do any other manufacturers back up their kits with a Performance Guarantee? http://www.vararam.com/performanceguarantee.html


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Yeah actually KN does. It comes in the box with the intake.

And every company dynos their intakes then posts inflated numbers. They ALL do that. Nobody is saying the Vararam DOESN'T make more power, but I think what we agree on is that it will take more than an in-house dyno to make us sell what we have at a loss and spend $400 more on something new

There's no disrespect here, we're just being cautious.
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:34 PM   #94
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Yeah actually KN does. It comes in the box with the intake.

And every company dynos their intakes then posts inflated numbers. They ALL do that. Nobody is saying the Vararam DOESN'T make more power, but I think what we agree on is that it will take more than an in-house dyno to make us sell what we have at a loss and spend $400 more on something new

There's no disrespect here, we're just being cautious.

Completely understand the skepticism. We've all seen inflated dyno results over the years and they don't always pan out in the real world.

We'll see what numbers the Vararam intake puts down once we're on the dyno and then go from there. Until then we can all bench race and speculate....Sound good?
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:47 PM   #96
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Completely understand the skepticism. We've all seen inflated dyno results over the years and they don't always pan out in the real world.
Skepticism is not really the right words for it. I think there's a lot of people here that are anxious to see the numbers and I am one of them.
I'm not concerned over the installation or anything else. I can see where this design is a good design and want to see what kind of numbers it can achieve.

And just so you know. I don't care what kind of deal they make for you. I think the amount of your time taking the car to them for testing and adjusting and all there shouldn't be a single person on here ticked off if you get the set-up for a discount or even free.
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Just out of curiosity, do they have fans or something that can be used to simulate high-speed airflow while on the dyno? Since this is a ram air system, I'd think that kind of setup would give the most realistic results?
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Some do, some don't. I imagine they've figured this into the equation as this is the type they've been making for awhile and will ensure they have it set up right.
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