My new OBX headers :-)

[cybergrayls3]

I have been doing tons of research trying to figure out which header to buy...these are looking better and better...don't get me wrong I would absolutely love a set of kooks,or arh's...but unless Ive been missing some amazing sales on these headers its gonna be hard to justify the cost...I can buy the obx headers, and have almost enough money left over for a cam kit from Texas speed..when I look at it in that perspective its hard to justify the expensive headers.

[Hutch52]

Originally Posted by cybergrayls3

I have been doing tons of research trying to figure out which header to buy...these are looking better and better...don't get me wrong I would absolutely love a set of kooks,or arh's...but unless Ive been missing some amazing sales on these headers its gonna be hard to justify the cost...I can buy the obx headers, and have almost enough money left over for a cam kit from Texas speed..when I look at it in that perspective its hard to justify the expensive headers.

Looks like the best deal on Camaro5, with money left over to buy more mods.

[mgoodbar]

Originally Posted by kcox2010

well i can tell from just start up and and reving it up there a big difference i wont know more till spring to much salt and i dont drive it in the winter

sorry quality not the best

Well i was going to look up some porn, but there is no need now..

[ss/rs-matt]

Originally Posted by mgoodbar

Well i was going to look up some porn, but there is no need now..

Well that was entirely too much information....lol!

[ss/rs-matt]

Originally Posted by cybergrayls3

I have been doing tons of research trying to figure out which header to buy...these are looking better and better...don't get me wrong I would absolutely love a set of kooks,or arh's...but unless Ive been missing some amazing sales on these headers its gonna be hard to justify the cost...I can buy the obx headers, and have almost enough money left over for a cam kit from Texas speed..when I look at it in that perspective its hard to justify the expensive headers.

I was in the same boat, I had enough to buy the expensive ones but could not find a single reason why I should. Good luck with your decision.

[1sweet11SS]

With the money I saved, I was able to get a tune......put $$$$ right back into our economy.

[11TexaSS]

Like many others, I'm looking for the most bang for my buck. There was a great sale on Stainless Power w/cats I missed I wished I jumped on. Now I'm just learning about these OBX headers and they sure are tempting. I've read the negative experience some people have had with them but I can also find complaints about those big name brands. I'd be interested to hear from someone who has had them on for some time now and if they have had any problems with and see how they've held up.

[ss/rs-matt]

Originally Posted by kcox2010

well i can tell from just start up and and reving it up there a big difference i wont know more till spring to much salt and i dont drive it in the winter

sorry quality not the best

that sounds really good!

[ss/rs-matt]

took this real quick with my phone, i don't think it does it justice though

[MarylandSpeed]

Originally Posted by cybergrayls3

I have been doing tons of research trying to figure out which header to buy...these are looking better and better...don't get me wrong I would absolutely love a set of kooks,or arh's...but unless Ive been missing some amazing sales on these headers its gonna be hard to justify the cost...I can buy the obx headers, and have almost enough money left over for a cam kit from Texas speed..when I look at it in that perspective its hard to justify the expensive headers.

Okay..so lets look at this from another perspective. You have a Cold Air Inductions Intake, and Borla Atak Catback. Combined they cost about $1600. Now you could have bought a K&N Intake for $250, and done a muffler delete for $150, and saved $1200. That's a cam, install, and tune worth of savings. Your car would still be loud, and would make within 5 HP of what it does now. Sure the parts would not be as nice..but the end result is the same. You can spend your money anyway you want, but I see this with a lot of customers. You have a ton of cheap options for catbacks, and intakes, yet people buy what won this dyno test, or who made the fanciest youtube video. Then when it comes time to buy headers, it turns into let's go to Walmart and buy the cheapest option possible? Not really trying to flame you...just honestly trying to understand the logic.

Originally Posted by mgoodbar

MacBook Pro, owww god no you didn't. It has inferior plastic And it looks like all the other laptops out there. They must have stole the design from Dell..

Actually a Macbook Pro is basically the same inside as a Dell, just put in a shiny aluminum case and marked up 300% with some nice marketing. They are even in many cases made by the same Chinese contract manufactuer. For the average user a Mac and Dell are about the same..but the Apple in nicer quality if you know what you are looking at. 300% nice quality is debatle..but with the way Mac's sell..some people agree. Not faulting him though..I have all Mac's my self and like buying nice, high quality things.

700 bucks for headders with high flow cats.. DAM, and for that price, DAM that means if something goes wrong with them you can buy a brand new set and still not have spent as much money.

Except for the install cost? And your math is wrong too. $700 is not too far off what a nice set costs.

Are we really sure that KooK's did not steal the design from OBX??? Which set actuall came out first ..

And see..people can make competely out of left field, wrong statements like this..and I am just supposed to ignore it?

Come on Dude, leave Matt alone.. I see that the inferior steel that they used in the Nissan GTR engine seams to beat the hell out of a ton of american stuff If he is happy, I am happy for him. period.. Now I need a set of headders next month, So do me a favor, sell me a set of Kooks with high flow cat for 700, like Matt just paid.. And I will have the top of the line

I will if you sell me a set of real Oakley's for the price of fake ones?

Nike headders for my car... Or why dont you go around, since it bothers you so much, and buy back everyone's obx and give them Kooks. This would be the right thing to do. That way we can all have American Headders, mad in america... Dam dude get real. the under ware you have on from WALLY WORLD are made in china. The have inferior cotton...

??????

Matt, I am not so sure we are actuall paying out ragious prices for headders like kooks, becouse of kook's.. It might be some people cant live with out 3 pool's in the back yard and 6 cars, all with blowers, and a 10 bedroom house.......

So lets see, I will buy a set of Kooks headders from any vender on here the 16th of next month for 700 bucks... I want high flow cats to..

I am sick of people bashing otheres on here and it needs to stop...

So...if I sell you a set of Kooks for the price of a set of flea market immitations you would buy? I guess that is becoming the American mentality.

[cybergrayls3]

Originally Posted by MarylandSpeed

Okay..so lets look at this from another perspective. You have a Cold Air Inductions Intake, and Borla Atak Catback. Combined they cost about $1600. Now you could have bought a K&N Intake for $250, and done a muffler delete for $150, and saved $1200. That's a cam, install, and tune worth of savings. Your car would still be loud, and would make within 5 HP of what it does now. Sure the parts would not be as nice..but the end result is the same. You can spend your money anyway you want, but I see this with a lot of customers. You have a ton of cheap options for catbacks, and intakes, yet people buy what won this dyno test, or who made the fanciest youtube video. Then when it comes time to buy headers, it turns into let's go to Walmart and buy the cheapest option possible? Not really trying to flame you...just honestly trying to understand the logic.



Actually a Macbook Pro is basically the same inside as a Dell, just put in a shiny aluminum case and marked up 300% with some nice marketing. They are even in many cases made by the same Chinese contract manufactuer. For the average user a Mac and Dell are about the same..but the Apple in nicer quality if you know what you are looking at. 300% nice quality is debatle..but with the way Mac's sell..some people agree. Not faulting him though..I have all Mac's my self and like buying nice, high quality things.




Except for the install cost? And your math is wrong too. $700 is not too far off what a nice set costs.




And see..people can make competely out of left field, wrong statements like this..and I am just supposed to ignore it?



I will if you sell me a set of real Oakley's for the price of fake ones?



??????



So...if I sell you a set of Kooks for the price of a set of flea market immitations you would buy? I guess that is becoming the American mentality.

I'll tell you my logic on cheap headers with expensive catbacks. On my 99 z28 I bought a very expensive set of headers with a very cheap catback...the car sounded..Ehh...okay,not terrible but not great. Terrible drone. I installed a cam and had it tuned...after about a year of having them on the car I backed out of a friends dirt driveway at night and tore the drivers side header all to Hell. I replaced these expensive headers with a 400 dollar set of pacesetters. I then installed a nitrous kit and headed back to my tuner to get some dyno pulls and have some timing pulled out for the spray..the baseline dyno numbers were 4hp of what I dynoed 20k miles previously with the expensive headers. Was it the cheaper header that cost me the 4hp?maybe weather? I really don't know. I do know that my car sounded the same with the cheap headers. I eventually got rid of my cheapo catback and put a reputable brand catback on...I was much more happy with the sound and volume inside the cabin. After this I decided that if I had to cheap out it would be on the header since my experience the cheap header was very similar to what I had already paid double for. Now I know I'm comparing a 4th gen to my current 5th gen which is why I said Ive been doing tons of research. I'm a BMW mechanic so I know that sometimes you really just pay for the name that's stamped on the part and its really not tons better then anything else out there..I was in no way calling you out or anything..I'm still considering buying kooks and your still a vendor I will contact when it comes time for me to order the headers whichever brand it may be. I would love to see dyno results with cheaper headers compared to the expensive headers...because no offense but the whole "but wait there made in America so that's why they are so expensive" isn't a reason I will pay double for a product that is basically going to perform the same. Like I said I'm a mechanic so I don't make tons of money to blow on my car. I'm still considering the kooks or arhs...but I'm also open to cheap headers if the power and sound are going to be the same. (sorry for the grammar and typos I'm typing this with my phone)

[1sweet11SS]

You are correct.....I kick myself everyday for forking out 1100-1200 for my Borla catback. I was too excited about having my Camaro and wanted a better sound......I premature ummmm bought the ATAK without searching first (I swear honey that never happens....I just got excited).

Had I read the forums sooner, you are correct I would've done a muffler delete. (I did buy it from you BTW, fast shipping, fair market price, no complaints)

The CAI I bought for $349. Had some "points" from a vendor. I love the look....hate the K&N.

After some research on headers and comparing, you are correct, I became "Walmart". I came oohh so close to buying ARH LTs, but I just couldn't do it. The price was very fair when compared to SW and Kooks (I think $1200ish, give or take $50), but when compare to other brands I felt it was overpriced. The performance and value of OBX, Stainless Power (?), or Texas Speed is GREAT when compared to he high priced headers...Just my opinion of course

I am very happy with my purchase.... I did the install myself. Very straight forward and easy....fit like a glove

[ss/rs-matt]

Originally Posted by MarylandSpeed

Okay..so lets look at this from another perspective. You have a Cold Air Inductions Intake, and Borla Atak Catback. Combined they cost about $1600. Now you could have bought a K&N Intake for $250, and done a muffler delete for $150, and saved $1200. That's a cam, install, and tune worth of savings. Your car would still be loud, and would make within 5 HP of what it does now. Sure the parts would not be as nice..but the end result is the same. You can spend your money anyway you want, but I see this with a lot of customers. You have a ton of cheap options for catbacks, and intakes, yet people buy what won this dyno test, or who made the fanciest youtube video. Then when it comes time to buy headers, it turns into let's go to Walmart and buy the cheapest option possible? Not really trying to flame you...just honestly trying to understand the logic.



Actually a Macbook Pro is basically the same inside as a Dell, just put in a shiny aluminum case and marked up 300% with some nice marketing. They are even in many cases made by the same Chinese contract manufactuer. For the average user a Mac and Dell are about the same..but the Apple in nicer quality if you know what you are looking at. 300% nice quality is debatle..but with the way Mac's sell..some people agree. Not faulting him though..I have all Mac's my self and like buying nice, high quality things.

My list of mods so far.
1. K&N intake $250. (from you)
2. Muffler delete and magnaflow x-pipe/muffler combo $350
3. Used diablosport predator $150
4. OBX headers $680
Total $1430

Thats $80 more than your sale price on one set of Kooks with catted connection pipes or the cost of one MacBook Pro. Are you really saying that about $100 worth of raw material bent and welded together hold the same value of my Mac? Please don't say it took as much engineering to build headers as it did to build a computer, software and all.

[ss/rs-matt]

Originally Posted by 1sweet11SS

(I did buy it from you BTW, fast shipping, fair market price, no complaints)

X2...I too love maryland speeds website and have been a repeat customer (going back to my LS1 GTO days) and will continue to be. However, in this case the OBX's just couldn't be beat.