Some thoughts on "recent" developments on this site....

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

What can I say Scott. You and your team have done a wonderful job. Yes I have my Camaro SS/RS. This car is everything I had hoped and more. The R6P code for early preorders IS something very special. I'm gonna keep this short, but suffice it to say
I appreciate your involvement with the new Camaro and I will be very proud driving my
SS/RS knowing you had a very large part in it's rebirth.

[2002b4c]

I had a buddy that used to say, "Don't argue with an idiot - people will not be able to tell the difference!" I think some people on this site just want to be negative.

In many cases we have too much information. I remember when I was waiting for my 1999 Camaro SS - there was not much info out there - there was the SS Owners Association that had great info. Today we get all the gory details on everything.

We now know about the things that happen, that just a few years ago we never would have know about. My guess is no car has had the availability of information like the new Camaro.

Thanks Scott S for keeping us in the loop and fighting for a great car and a great company, and thanks to all the great people at GM that are working their buts off in very trying times to bring us a world class car! Way to go!

Tony

[Jack]

Scott,

For one, the passionate, and sometimes negative, discourse is a direct result of the fact that so many are so beside themselves w/ anticipation and excitement over this car you've built. It's unbelievable. While I've yet to throw stones, I absolutely understand SOME of the lack of patience because you built such a damn fine car (and I've had the pleasure of sitting in at least 10 different cars). Others, with their 'panic du jour' (so true) and the cutting negativity on so many boards out there, need to find another outlet (or target)...

So, to those who threaten to buy something else because they're tired of waiting (and some of you placed your order in 2009!): every time you see a Camaro cruising around, while you're making your monthly payments on some lesser vehicle will regret that choice for years.

Thanks Scott for sharing so much information, even though that's backfired badly in some cases. I am excited, but I CAN and WILL wait for my car to arrive. That baby is truly fantastic!

Jack

[Sierra]

Scott has spoken. All will be well. Remember there is a lot of s*** going down at GM these days not just the Camaro.

[Scott@Bjorn3D]

Thanks for posting Scott and following the thread.

My family and I want to thank you and all at GM for bringing the Camaro to us. My family really wants to thank you, John, Cheryl, Dennis and all the gang who worked on #230 and signed the cool poster they sent with their signatures.

And if all goes well tonight #230 will be sleeping in her new home. I just hope she gets along well with Franchesco (my wifes Acura RL). Meaning do not park to close to #230 and no door dings from my kids.

Thanks for all you have done and I can say that with you posting on the site it really lifts folks spirits up. Maybe when the launch calms down you can post once a week to whats up and going on. I really like you talking about your family stuff. Hits home!!!

Scott Sherman

[DDustiNN]

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

And here's the minority party's rebuttal to GM party's State of the Union address


This should have been made more clear. When you said things like "we want you (collectively) behind the wheels of your Camaros AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!" to the average person that means that you are actually taking steps to make this happen, not just using us as guinea pigs. Nowhere did the official documentation state any of this. And, when you preorder something, it is assumed that yours will be among the first delivered.

I don’t think most of us really have a problem with the one-per-dealer decision. Not everyone agrees with it but it’s not the real point of contention.

Are you really giving examples of spy shots as to why GM shouldn’t share information? Why not give those spy shots to the public before they can even become an issue? What if you just posted more flattering pictures along with explanations that the interior wasn’t anywhere close to final and that the headlights were just for testing and the final ones weren’t finished? None of the panic would have happened!!! They've already let writers test Volt mules so it looks like the Camaro is being surpassed in the early information game.

Actually several people DID post that. Pictures were even posted of the pace cars showing no damage.

Again, more responses to non-issues. We know we can’t all have them NOW. We know not all dealers and customers are always ethical. The problem is that orders are still being entered into the system and placed….. right now……..that are going ahead of people that ordered several months ago. Why? >>>>

This is the stock response it seems. Blame it on the heavy hand of government. Then please explain how you were able to build all those cars for Avis? Shouldn’t they have to be evenly spread out? How come several NASCAR drivers got early cars? How come Dr. Phil and Jay Leno are getting the hook up? Do these same laws have a provision that states “If you’re incredibly rich, GM can build a car for you ahead of all the stupid normal people”? This just doesn’t add up. If you can do it for celebrities, you can do it for the not-so-celebrities that unwittingly agreed to be your guinea pigs.

I think that is really the only thing that continually remains unanswered...

[1969-2010]

Fbod,
I am sorry that your sleep is only four hours a night. You should work on that. I know it takes time to produce a car and realize that your biggest customers get the first shot which happens to be Avis. They also preordered the same as us. What I totally dislike is that my dealer tries to keep me informed but I emailed Customer Service to see if I was going to be built this week as my dealer gave me the TPW which was on his screen. I got an email saying that my request is being transferred to another person and that I would be hearing from her. It has been several days and no answer from them. Last night I went to the May 6 event and sat in a 2LT and had some fun looking it over.
My dealer said he will try to get an update today but what happened to the Customer Service rep who was to respond back to me? This is why people are upset--no feedback.
My order number is NDZMPK ordered 10/29/2009 and first to be placed. However we see people coming in way after our dates and they have VIN's already. I worked at tier 1 supplier for all the big three and also trucks and I know how scheduling works. Orders are suppose to be filled in the order received. How can you explain this? Poor communication and unsupported delays for pre-orders are upsetting alot of people. Early orders need to be built and if there is a delay on manual transmissions then it needs to be brought to the dealers attention so customers can decide if they want an automatic or not to keep moving down the line. The bad thing is hearing it rumored on the websites and cannot find out if it is true or not. Not good for public relations on GM's part.

[ljustin293]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Dear ones.........[...]
..........and there are those who have opinions even though they have never worked in this industry, and thus, while it’s every person’s God Given Right to have an opinion – it is not necessarily so that the opinion has ANYTHING to do with fact.

….and thank you, once again, for “Keeping the Faith”

people have to stop jumping to conclusions!! they get on here and think that they know everything!! Thanks Scott, you really put so much of your time into these posts and it really means a lot!

[DanD]

I get the same way from customers, business etc.. can't fall asleep, all kinds of s**t goes through your head, even when it has nothing to do with you or anything you can do about it.

As for the Camaro IMO the biggest loss of faith is/when the early cars are/were held up with no "real" explanation. This brought on a whirlwind of complaints and bashing when it could of easily been diffused by a single paragraph like you said. I don't think it does take as long as it is to repair any or all of these, but I am chalking it up to maybe the GM situation and loss of jobs that are slowing this down?

Thank you for your heartfelt information, it was needed to calm a lot of folks down.

hopefully #231 will get off the sitting rail and get here so I don't have to lose sleep over one more thing.

[PAUL SS]

fbodfather:

BRAVO!

I did not order early (I tried to).
I know I have a long wait (I expect that).
The Camaro is worth waiting for.

Thanks for your thoughts.

[Ranger 75]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

I know that it may seem that way -- but in reality, most of our dealers are hard-working people who are trying to do the right thing -- and most of them are very benevolent to their communities.

(...and industry sales satisfaction and service satisfaction surveys will bear this out -- we're above industry average and many of the foreign manufacturers are the worst!)

The problem is that a few ruin and tarnish everyone else.

We constantly talk to our dealers --

You may also have heard that we're going to reduce the number of dealers across the country -- not sure how that's going to play out -- but you can be assured that 'sales and service satisfaction' will play a big part in who stays and who goes.............

fbodfather....you are correct, there are great dealers out here! Triangle in DeFuniak Springs, FL is one of them and is an important part of our small town. Triangle must stay! Order #NJMC53

[greenrail]

Fbodfather:

Great picture of the world as it exists. Really appreciated.

I only hope everyone on here would realize, that you and all your compadres at GM have a massive situation on your hands. Having to deal with rumors, unfounded or not, is disruptive.

I for one have been exceptionally please with how things are going with this car. I am fully prepared to wait for whenever my car will arrive. I even expected to wait until third quarter. It will get here when it gets here.

My dealer, while initially rather lackluster in my dealings is starting to catch on to what this vehicle is. I went to their unveiling last night and hadn't seen so many smiles in a dealership in a heck of a long time. Granted it is a small town dealer. But, I really believe their connection with the community is the basis for their long term existance.

Either way, my lovely Bride and I are waiting patiently for when our new Camaro arrives.

Let's enjoy this, we may never have an opportunity to enjoy this type of car again. ( I hope I am wrong in saying that.)

[fastball]

***** Sigh ******

I'm so glad I have the patience to wait untill the hullaballo dies out. Everyone has their panties in a knot over delivery dates, allocations, front facias, side view mirrors, dealer mark ups, and who gets their car first.....

I am waiting a year. I will have my Camaro just like the rest of you..... but I will have paid less and gotten a car that has had all the kinks worked out of it. While you all need to take your blood pressure medication, I'm still laying around in my underwear sipping a margarita, laughing and watching you all get all bent out of shape

[Brokinarrow]

You know, I've met a few famous people in my time in the Marines, but I never felt a need to ask for an autograph. I think fbodfather is about the only person I can think of that I would really want to meet and get an autograph from! You, sir, are an inspiration to all of us Camaro Faithful. Keep up the good work, and let me know if you swing through Iowa some day!