Watch the Lingenfelter Camaro ZL1 Topping 200 MPH!

[harrycamaro]

haha ford fans

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by harrycamaro

haha ford fans

[htron50]

Originally Posted by motorhead

No I'm not taking from GM or Ford. I'm taking real world facts ,and the question I ask was about down force and aerodynamics of the two cars because there seems to be a lot of people on here claiming that one has more than the other.

I not looking for an argument here. I'm looking for the facts.

OK... so let's see, you're NOT TAKING from the people who designed and engineered the car. You want US to produce the FACTS?

Interesting approach!

[harrycamaro]

Originally Posted by htron50

OK... so let's see, you're NOT TAKING from the people who designed and engineered the car. You want US to produce the FACTS?

Interesting approach!

thats exactly what i was thinking...
where else would we get the facts? gm released aerodynamics for the zl1 way before it was released, ford hasn't said anything about it yet. its all just speculation that the zl1 has better down force than the gt500. and so far the zl1 can back it up.

[htron50]

Originally Posted by GRAHL

Dude you will NEVER get the ford trolls to admit jealousy. It's impossible, there are too many "outs", to explain away the emotion. But that's what the internet allows you to do. Face to face these guys would blow a gasket and stomp off or something. It's like hey, you don't like the answers then gtfo. They get frustrated and you get what you see here. Look at the last forum and you'll see 17 pages of this. But wait, it's only "spirited conversation" or "why can't we ask questions". haha, that's all great, but when they go on and on they really think that the clever language covers up the envy bleeding through. Utlimately it's like you said, it's a fragile ego and they're HERE trying to mend it. I'm sure it has a lot do with perceived stealing of the thunder from the boss and the sales records etc. Who gives a rat's A$$, It's all good! I'll stay on topic and say these numbers for the ZL-1 are amazing. This car is awesome from top to bottom, performance to looks, everything! Best all around IMO.

Ditto! The car is A M A Z I N G !!! That's why so many rag reviews were positive. They can't hide their own astonishment! Now that I have one, I know why. It's like a perfect car in design and performance and intrigue. With TOTAL satisfaction built in.

[Blueclyde]

Great video. I think the most significant thing in this video was the guy's last statement about putting the GT500 and ZL1 together. Both cars, same day, same track, same drive. That would be cool.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by htron50

OK... so let's see, you're NOT TAKING from the people who designed and engineered the car. You want US to produce the FACTS?

Interesting approach!

Okay, So show me "facts" that GM or Ford released comparing the Down force and aerodynamics of the ZL1 and 2013 GT500. It's a simple question. Why is everyone making it so hard? There are many on here that seem to know the comparison. I just want to know their source.

[harrycamaro]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I just find them funny. they always have some for of argument or excuse

dont get me wrong, mustangs are great cars. one of my best friends has one. i love it. i just love my camaro more. It's just funny to hear them always have to defend their cars and such.

[capnkirk52]

Originally Posted by htron50

It's cheaper than a ZL1, and its a WIN vs Boss!! Not a lose. Your negativity show you are somewhat jealous. Sorry you feel that way! Why don't you just trade in your GT for a 1LE? You will be greatly impressed. And, imagine the PERMAGRIN you will then be able to wear instead of a frown! It's the way to go!

Uh.. 444 hp/3600lb is gonna lose to a 426hp/4200lb car? Not negative, I just can't spin the numbers to work how you want them to.

[harrycamaro]

Originally Posted by capnkirk52

Uh.. 444 hp/3600lb is gonna lose to a 426hp/4200lb car? Not negative, I just can't spin the numbers to work how you want them to.

its not just about power to weight around a track. suspension plays a part too.
honestly idk which is faster, havent looked into it. i wanna see them head to head personally. theyre both great cars imo.

[capnkirk52]

Originally Posted by adamgl

Camaro has came out with their facts, numbers and videos about the ZL1.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2011...NEWS/111119987

Where is fords? Silent b'c it's not as good?

Is this like the 120 mph trap speed that GM was touting as fact? We all know how that is turning out.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by harrycamaro

I just find them funny. they always have some for of argument or excuse

dont get me wrong, mustangs are great cars. one of my best friends has one. i love it. i just love my camaro more. It's just funny to hear them always have to defend their cars and such.

From someone that likes all cars, you have them in every camp not just the mustang crowd.

My theory is that the Camaro has been out of the came for so many years that the Mustang guys have too much pent up mudslinging inside them ,and they use this forum to get it out because it's the most popular Gen5 site.

[capnkirk52]

Originally Posted by harrycamaro

its not just about power to weight around a track. suspension plays a part too.
honestly idk which is faster, havent looked into it. i wanna see them head to head personally. theyre both great cars imo.

Agreed. Both will have monotube adj shocks. One has SRA and one IRS. IRS might be better but it adds weight. Is it good enough to get out of it's own way? Guess we'll see. The Boss finished 2.4 seconds behind the IRS/MRE shock ZL1 with 140 more hp and at 4400 ft altitude.

[capnkirk52]

Originally Posted by motorhead

From someone that likes all cars, you have them in every camp not just the mustang crowd.

My theory is that the Camaro has been out of the came for so many years that the Mustang guys have too much pent up mudslinging inside them ,and they use this forum to get it out because it's the most popular Gen5 site.

I think it's just because there is actually some competition again (if you can call it that, lol)? 10 years of blown mustangs working everyone over gets some people worked up.