Attention all Camaro SS 6-speed manual transmission owners

[UCF w00t]

Originally Posted by POWERFREAK

Mine was built late in the week that they had the M6 Constraint...vin #26,xxx....didn't get caught in any kind of extended QC...so theoretically, there should be any higher vins with the problem if in fact they properly fixed the issue.

Interesting. So we've got some around 12,000 that broke and potentially up to the mid 20 thousands. That's a lot of cars that could have bad shafts.

They said it would take a couple weeks to get everything figured out and let everyone know. It's now been a couple months...............

I'm guessing what they figured out wasn't pleasant so instead of manning up, they just swept it under.

[Hoss]

Please don't down play this. I know someone who is getting a new M-6 transmission at this time. His vin# was in the 17000 to 18000. Where are these calls from Chevy???!!

Are our transmissions needing Chevy attention? Does this problem include Vettes, Cobras and Challengers?? I understand that these transmissions are made in Mexico.

What is up with this problem?

[IROCanSS]

No one has died from this issue. If your trans breaks, GM will fix it. Do you really care if they call you or not? It was a problem, the problem has been addressed. If you have an M6, I do, just drive it how you want. If it breaks, they will fix it. If it doesn't, you're good. Why bring this back up just to beat it down again? Do what i did, go out and do a few launch controls and hard starts, if it snaps, guess what, yours was bad! If not, like I said, you're good.

Do you really want the call hey so and so, your trans may be bad and may snap. We are not sure but it may. I doubt they are going to be going out and replacing possibly good transmissions just in case.

Its a mechanical item, it may break. Just have them fix it if it does. No one has been denied repair that i know of.

And 12000-24000 is 12000 cars (I know I am brilliant) of those cars, how many were SS M6? I bet you are really only looking at a few thousand cars. Most of which are probably fine!

[UCF w00t]

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

No one has died from this issue. If your trans breaks, GM will fix it. Do you really care if they call you or not? It was a problem, the problem has been addressed. If you have an M6, I do, just drive it how you want. If it breaks, they will fix it. If it doesn't, you're good. Why bring this back up just to beat it down again? Do what i did, go out and do a few launch controls and hard starts, if it snaps, guess what, yours was bad! If not, like I said, you're good.

Do you really want the call hey so and so, your trans may be bad and may snap. We are not sure but it may. I doubt they are going to be going out and replacing possibly good transmissions just in case.

Its a mechanical item, it may break. Just have them fix it if it does. No one has been denied repair that i know of.

And 12000-24000 is 12000 cars (I know I am brilliant) of those cars, how many were SS M6? I bet you are really only looking at a few thousand cars. Most of which are probably fine!

If only what you said was true... It took ~4300 miles on my car and did not break with "a few launch controls and hard starts". I thought I was in the clear. I was not.

I would have liked a call/notification and a repair done. Maybe someone with more knowledge can fill us in but if they fix this before it snaps, does it require a new transmission or could they just replace the shaft? After it snaps it destroys the transmission and requires a replacement. I would much rather not have to have had my car towed. It's not exactly wonderful for it when it's cranked down to the flatbed. And why promise to do something with no intention of living up to it? If they said they would notify the owners, they should have done so.

12k, and since most of the early cars were SSM6, you're looking at over 6000 cars. If they know that there's only a small portion of those affected, why not notify them? I'm sorry but if they know there was a problem, they need to let the customers know. Whatever happened to customers first?

[domano 68]

I am also very concerned about this since I am in the upper 18K VIN range. I have been breaking my car in pretty easily but as it is waking up more and more I am getting on it more and more. GM needs to relay more info hear and step up to the plate. I do not like having the thought of a poorly manufactured tranny component. I'd like to keep my car "original" with the matching tranny.If the tailshaft is suspect, recall it. Who wants to go through the hassle of a damaged tranny and all the logistics of getting it fixed? Not I.

GM or anyone in the know please give us an ok or fix the problem. I want to drive my car like it should be driven.

[v6sonoma]

Who said they didn't notify them? People on this site said they were called and told to park it a wrecker was on the way. Perhaps yours was outside of the affected range. Hell Thor had like 10,000 on him with no shaft explosion. They will fix it but to say there is an outbreak again? It's not like 10 people came on and said it happened again.

[NVMY68SS]

Originally Posted by Treadstone

Do people still care about "matching numbers" in modern cars?

Years from now, people will.

If anyone has to get this swap done and they swap the entire trans, I'd suggest documenting it for that person that may ask down the road.

Personally, if anything happens to my motor or trans, I'd like the option of keeping it and repairing it down the road.

Plus, let's face facts. How many of these cars will actually still be in original condition 30 years from now? Makes those that are, that much more desirable.

[UCF w00t]

Originally Posted by v6sonoma

Who said they didn't notify them? People on this site said they were called and told to park it a wrecker was on the way. Perhaps yours was outside of the affected range. Hell Thor had like 10,000 on him with no shaft explosion. They will fix it but to say there is an outbreak again? It's not like 10 people came on and said it happened again.

I have not seen a single post where someone was notified and brought in for their output shaft being bad. There was that early recall with the battery cable that they did that for but not this.

If mine was outside the range then I'd like to know what the range exactly was. Some cars built before mine and many, many built after mine were held. Several cars built before mine and some others around the same time have had their shafts snap. Thor was built LONG before this issue cropped up.

I'm not saying that this is an additional outbreak but that this issue was never resolved as GM said they would.

[Partick]

I gota believe that even the "good transmissions" could break under hard starts & launches. I broke many an M21 and even a Rock Crusher once with my old Camaro so it could probably happen to anyone. I'm a mid 25,000 vin assembled in July and was held in QC for a couple of weeks. Not sure what the QC hold was for but it always makes think twice before I launch so I don't do it nearly as often as I would otherwise which is better for the car in general. If it goes I'm confident they'll fix it, I don't see a good reason to pull out a box that hasn't gone BOOM yet.

[gtjacket]

My Vin is 18618 and I have a 2ss M6 and I haver not been called. I have driven it hard at times, but never used the launch control feature. You can bet that I will use it before my warranty expires to make sure that I am not holding the bag after the power train warranty expires.

[1sickss]

hopefully i dont have to worry bout this since mine will be here next week

[camarogolfguy]

Originally Posted by Tran

As posted on Homepage.

Many of you are understandably concerned regarding whether your Camaro is potentially afflicted with the same issue that has caused a small group of 6-speed Camaro SS's to experience transmission output shaft breakage. Rest assured, GM has now represented that they will contact by phone *every* owner who currently owns a Camaro SS with 6-speed manual transmission IF it has or is suspected of having faulty parts which may lead to such issue. This will begin as soon as the GM's internal investigation into the issue is completed, hopefully within the next two weeks.

This means that if you do not hear from someone at GM regarding your car, then your transmission is fine.

But it wouldn't hurt to still put it to the test, wouldn't it? I plan on doing so near the dealer at some point.

[camarogolfguy]

Originally Posted by george

First of all, Great job GM. It makes me feel better about my Camaro. I have contacted GM Customer Service and they had no idea what I was talking about with regard to these reported failures. They did open a file and said I would be contacted if there were any issues. I hope NOT to hear from them. In the mean time, I'm enjoying the ride.

It is SOP to act like a deer in the headlights. GM is very aware of this problem and it appears this is the first public acknowledgment. And I don't know that you can rely on the fact that just because you don't get a call from GM, you can safely assume your output shaft will not fail in the future.

I own an 06 Subaru Outback with the "ghostwalking problem". Subaru has yet to publicly acknowledge, let alone fix, the problem. But when I took it my dealer, while they denied knowing anything about it, gave me a free rear end alignment (one of the band-aid fixes proposed to this point). But it is a real problem and by not fixing it, the company saves lots of $$.

[camarogolfguy]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

The way I see it, you have 5 years 100K miles to break something so hammer on.

If tremec keeps good records and you can narrow it down to a batch of output shafts that were heat treated or manufactured wrong, then they might be able to track these units down.

How many units affected? They may never know if they were lack in their inspection and record keeping.

Theres only one reason these break, they just plain arent strong enough and thats not normal.

I have only seen this happen once in my life, and I have been repairing manual transmissions for years.

It may not be a big deal when it happens, the guy who's trans I fixed had it happen back in 1993 and his car just stopped moving. It was a clean break. With the '10 Camaro's 2 piece driveshaft I really doubt it's gonna spit the driveshaft out either.

I suspect its a heat treating flaw.

Don't be suprised if they don't make many phone calls.

Makes sense to me.