2017 1LE

[markgws6]

Originally Posted by Pushrod Pete

al oppenheiser said the new 1LE is 3 seconds faster than the 5th gen 1LE on about a 2min track. WOW!

Was it the same day, same driver, and same time of day? Even the same car and driver on the same track on the same day can be off by several seconds depending on variables like tire temp, track temp, tire pressures, etc. Al is a cleaver little boy...tsk tsk.

[Camaro Dude]

Originally Posted by markgws6

Was it the same day, same driver, and same time of day? Even the same car and driver on the same track on the same day can be off by several seconds depending on variables like tire temp, track temp, tire pressures, etc. Al is a cleaver little boy...tsk tsk.

You know, I'm willing to believe the 3 sec difference stock vs stock, as it does have the laws of Physics on its side.

This doesn't bother me at all to be honest, if time proves the 3 sec case to be correct.

I think the reporter nailed it when he called the 5th Gen 1LE a Sledgehammer, and the 6th a Scalpel.

My car's name Sledge, is short for Sledgehammer btw .

[Thor142]

Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

You know, I'm willing to believe the 3 sec difference stock vs stock, as it does have the laws of Physics on its side.

This doesn't bother me at all to be honest, if time proves the 3 sec case to be correct.

I think the reporter nailed it when he called the 5th Gen 1LE a Sledgehammer, and the 6th a Scalpel.

My car's name Sledge, is short for Sledgehammer btw .

As nimble as our cars are you can sometimes tell you are throwing around a 2 ton hunk of steel

[sherob]

Originally Posted by Thor142

As nimble as our cars are you can sometimes tell you are throwing around a 2 ton hunk of steel

But can that 2 ton of steel stick... I love watching my passengers face being pressed against the window of the passenger door going in to tight lefties.

[Thor142]

Originally Posted by sherob

But can that 2 ton of steel stick... I love watching my passengers face being pressed against the window of the passenger door going in to tight lefties.

LOL, I've made so many grown men giggle like excited children in my car. Its awesome.

[Iron Oak]

Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

You know, I'm willing to believe the 3 sec difference stock vs stock, as it does have the laws of Physics on its side.

This doesn't bother me at all to be honest, if time proves the 3 sec case to be correct.

I think the reporter nailed it when he called the 5th Gen 1LE a Sledgehammer, and the 6th a Scalpel.

My car's name Sledge, is short for Sledgehammer btw .

Wider, sticker tires combined with the improved suspension and torque vectoring eLSD. I can easily see that being 3 seconds faster. It could even be a conservative figure.

[Billy10mm]

Originally Posted by Thor142

LOL, I've made so many grown men giggle like excited children in my car. Its awesome.

So far I've smashed two people's heads into their window (you see the damn turn mother fudger, why the hell aren't you bracing yourself?).

My brother-in-law had a look of terror on his face that I'll not soon forget. 6'2" tall, built solid, ex-gangster, he screamed like a teenage girl and then threatened to hurt me if I didn't let him out of the car.

And I have one coworker who won't get in a car with me again if I'm driving. He was dead quiet the entire ride, uncomfortably quiet, and refuses to get in again. Tell's people that I'm insane. Hasn't gone to HR thankfully.

I've had a couple of good experiences, but not many.

One of the guys I know who is into cars happens to own a '12 Challenger R/T and kept referring to "our" cars in ways about how they are generally the same thing. So the first time I had him out in the 1LE I lowered the air pressure on the G2s, took it briskly for a few minutes to get them nice and warm, then showed him what 1.2Gs feels like. By the clench-marks on the leather door handle and the number of inches he flexed the seat back, I'd say you likely could have compressed coal into diamond between his ass cheeks that day. No longer does he refer to "our" cars as being the same though, so mission completed I guess.

[Electric]

Originally Posted by sherob

But can that 2 ton of steel stick... I love watching my passengers face being pressed against the window of the passenger door going in to tight lefties.

It is indeed very capable, and for the most part you can not tell that you driving something that weighs 3.9k pounds. At least not until you make a slight mistake and get into a corner too fast. When it does start sliding, it takes WAY longer to recover in comparison to a lighter car. All that momentum does take some time to dissipate.

[CapeCruisin]

Originally Posted by Billy10mm

So far I've smashed two people's heads into their window (you see the damn turn mother fudger, why the hell aren't you bracing yourself?).

My brother-in-law had a look of terror on his face that I'll not soon forget. 6'2" tall, built solid, ex-gangster, he screamed like a teenage girl and then threatened to hurt me if I didn't let him out of the car.

And I have one coworker who won't get in a car with me again if I'm driving. He was dead quiet the entire ride, uncomfortably quiet, and refuses to get in again. Tell's people that I'm insane. Hasn't gone to HR thankfully.

I've had a couple of good experiences, but not many.

One of the guys I know who is into cars happens to own a '12 Challenger R/T and kept referring to "our" cars in ways about how they are generally the same thing. So the first time I had him out in the 1LE I lowered the air pressure on the G2s, took it briskly for a few minutes to get them nice and warm, then showed him what 1.2Gs feels like. By the clench-marks on the leather door handle and the number of inches he flexed the seat back, I'd say you likely could have compressed coal into diamond between his ass cheeks that day. No longer does he refer to "our" cars as being the same though, so mission completed I guess.

I'd ride shotty. I like diamonds.

[Camaro Dude]

Originally Posted by Thor142

As nimble as our cars are you can sometimes tell you are throwing around a 2 ton hunk of steel

Passengers I carry that have driven smaller cars for the vast majority of their lives, eg, GTI's, Miatas, E30 BMW's, Fiats, etc, all remark how "weird" it feels from the passenger seat, that something so huge feeling with a long (enough) of a nose, can take S shaped curved roads like that. For some, initially sitting in this car is essentially huge car shock, lol.

It's very weird feeling on really tight and slower S shaped roads I must say as well. For me, this is the main allure of my 1LE and why it's my first ever American sports car. It defies expectations. I like that.

Originally Posted by Iron Oak

Wider, sticker tires combined with the improved suspension and torque vectoring eLSD. I can easily see that being 3 seconds faster. It could even be a conservative figure.

What do you predict will be the 2017 1LE's times versus 2015 Z28, in light of your "3 second difference being conservative" hypothesis?

[SS MoFo]

V6 1LE should be tough to keep up with on the express way on-off ramps and could be the commuter package to get!! final decision dependent on price and top speed of course!

[White_SS/RS]

The V6 version was created as indoctrination. Soon the way of the V8 will go away and the American muscle we all know and love will be all V6 or less. They want to put it in your mind now while you scoff and pick up an 8... Until one year....

[SS MoFo]

Agreed, as good as the V6 could be the V8 will be better

[Camaro Dude]

Originally Posted by White_SS/RS

The V6 version was created as indoctrination. Soon the way of the V8 will go away and the American muscle we all know and love will be all V6 or less. They want to put it in your mind now while you scoff and pick up an 8... Until one year....

I wonder what happened to the Hydrogen powered, internal combustion, V8 engine?

If you may recall circa 2000, BMW was testing them, road test results were almost too good to be true. All of the Internal combustion things we have all come to love, particularly under V8 guise, but with water out the pipe, instead of smoke.

All that was needed was a Hydrogen network. Life would have continued on as before, and we would all have moved on to other issues in life to fix from a civilizational standpoint.

Fast forward to today, I hear crickets...

What a pity.