11-16-2009, 03:55 PM | #85 |
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Awesome video!!! Congrats on the great results!
We'll be attending next years Optima Challenge with our 2009 Cobalt SS. I think we'll be going with the Pedders Coil Overs for that application! Kind regards, |
11-16-2009, 07:39 PM | #86 |
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11-16-2009, 07:49 PM | #87 |
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There were five 2010 Camaros. I did not look under the hoods as I had my own business to keep me busy track side. One company posted pictures of their car with a blower on this forum. That said, this is not a RWHP track. We didn't need more RWHP to be faster we needed track tires to use the power we had and build momentum turn to turn. The track rewards light cars with excellent suspension and tires.
Now when you have a super light car, huge wheels and tires and over 900 RWHP the track gets destroyed as was clear with the 66 Cobra. That car had it all. Bad Penny isn't far behind at ONLY 3,200 pounds. We came in lean and mean at TWO TONS :-( |
11-18-2009, 03:44 PM | #88 | |
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Pennys weighs 3,300 with no driver and makes 488 rwhp. We had a slight trans error and Dave couldn't get a good feel for the R6 tires, said he wished we would have ran the R888s since they gave much better driver feedback. Hey, live and learn. They were certainly good in the other events given how we finished.
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11-18-2009, 03:58 PM | #89 | |
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Bruce (Cobra owner) told me the dyno ran out at about 5,000 RPM and the HP showing 750. He also told me the red line was north of 7K. I was thinking he was at a minimum 950 RWHP. His 0 to 60 back to 0 is in the range of a decade old F 1 car and not that far off a current one. Regardless, his Cobra was absolutely sick. Your car was dialed in, impressive in all events including style. It is a really a well done STREET car. We just disqualified Bruce. So you can have 1st and I'll take second. |
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11-18-2009, 04:09 PM | #90 | |
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What other companies had pro drivers in thier cars? (serious question, did some of the other 2010's have "shoes" behind the wheel?) I know in our case this was the first time Nick had ever driven this track and he got basicaly one warm up lap to learn it. Not saying your car isn't faster, but we're still on the stock struts. There's just over $900 in our suspension. BTW, what tires were you on? Just curious. To me it's an apples and oranges comparison.. There's a reason only one 2010 was in the actual competition and the rest were in exhibition. Paul did your 2010 proud.. regardless of how other cars did.
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11-18-2009, 04:12 PM | #91 | |
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Thanks on Penny.. Dave didn't like the "feel" of the A6 Hoosiers on the track. He said they didn't give any feedback so he feels that's why he didn't push it harder. We were 10mph faster in the straights compared to last year yet didn't have faster times. I think he wishes we would have ran the R888s (great tire BTW). But the A6s did help in the other events. It's a tradeoff I guess. I hope that next year they specify a REAL street tires.. makes more sense for this type of event.
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There are some that take great pride in building and driving in events like this. I tip my hat to them. They are better drivers than I am. They are the ones that should compete for the title. We brought a member of our TEAM who is a very high profile driver. We also brought the best car we are capable of building. That is exactly what an exhibition car should be -- the best parts with the best drivers. That said, we have run back to back tests at the Autobahn, same car, same driver same day changing only to Pedders xa coilovers and radius bush snubbers. The difference was three full seconds. On a separate track we were 7 seconds faster than a stock Camaro with the same driver. At the Optima event we were 6 seconds faster that the next fastest 2010. It all tracks consistently. |
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11-18-2009, 05:10 PM | #94 |
Nope, stock engine cars...
I Agree with Steve here, just seems like a PR competition more so then anything resembling a performance test or race, I mean racing a 550 wheel car versus a 350 wheel car, is FAR from apples to apples. Neat challenge none the less I sapose. |
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11-18-2009, 05:40 PM | #96 |
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A lot of people are cranking up the power in their street Camaros to the 450-550 range so I think it's perfectly valid and sensible to match your development car to what so many of your potential customers have. Racing has always been the test bed development arena for the high performance features that have trickled down to the street level.
Pedder's "gets it" and is doing it right and the results show. Power is useless if you can't control it and Pedder's is demonstrating to the "power" customer that their packages gives them the kind of control that gets the job done. Using Paul Tracy to demonstrate that shows it's pro-quality stuff not something that a pro would never buy. Of course there's "PR" to it; that's what sponsor stickers all over a car, the track, the walls etc. are all about. I've got a Pedder's package ordered, just waiting for the parts to get in so I can get it installed on my car. Great job Pete and all who participated!
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11-19-2009, 06:09 PM | #97 |
Mike,
Does Peddlers make a basic setup for the 2010 Camaro? Will just changing the front and rear sway bars add more stability and control some of the understeer? If you could recomend one thing to upgrade the new Camaro suspension, what would it be? Car is away for the winter and would like to do some sort of upgrade before spring. Thanks! Last edited by DZbob; 11-19-2009 at 06:14 PM. Reason: misspelling |
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11-19-2009, 08:54 PM | #98 |
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Cool event! Great job to everyone that attended! I can't help but enjoy the old school cars with modern suspension pieces under them. Very nice!
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