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dragrcr · 05-24-2010, 08:31 PM

For everybody with a goofy clutch, the ones that will stick the clutch pedal 1/2 way down and not fully engauge on an agressive slipper launch and ANYBODY that has trouble shifting to second at 5000+ RPM.

I have read where a few People said their trans is shifting good now that the updated clutch has been installed. And, that may be true. But my trans would not shift above 5000 to second gear, just grinds. I assumed the trans was OK and that it was just a warped clutch disc not fully dis-engauging that caused the trans to not shift to second at high RPM and that may still be true, but my Trans was damaged. So, yes my Trans had unintentional abuse, but that was directly caused by the clutch. I never personally missed a gear. Repeat, I never missed a gear. Just grinded it once when the clutch was slipping and I did not know it and when the clutch was hot and not disengauging on the shift to second as I have seen many others post.

Well, the TECH working on my car took my trans apart and the 2nd gear syncros and blocker rings (not sure of exact terms) were trashed. He took me in the back and showed me the parts and my trans completely taken apart. The Brass part was all worn down and scored and the steel piece was worn and had blue spots on the outside.

I am so glad this dealer did not second guess me in any way and decided on their own to take my Trans apart.

motorhead · 05-24-2010, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcracer78

I am aware that has nothing to do with the clutch. However I took the car in for multiple issues, the clutch being one of them. I told the service rep the shifter was binding/notchy from 1st to 2nd and notchy from 2nd to 3rd. Whether I'm driving or the car is sitting with the clutch in, it feels exactly the same. I will be changing the fluid soon as many have reccomended and hopefully that will smooth it out a little. I don't see that resolving the issue though. To me it feels like a bad synchro.

Don't waste your time changing the fuild to fix that problem. Mine does the same thing. So does my vette.

Silver Ice · 05-24-2010, 08:43 PM

Mine has not stuck yet, but engages almost all the way to the top. had a C-5 Corvette before this and never had a clucth problem.

Silver Ice · 05-24-2010, 08:43 PM

Clutch, spelled it wrong

Shark547 · 05-24-2010, 09:33 PM

I get the herky jerky thing, but, only when the temp is below 50 degrees outside.

motorhead · 05-24-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark547

I get the herky jerky thing, but, only when the temp is below 50 degrees outside.

The herky jerky thing is from the driver most of the time.

Michael_Js · 05-24-2010, 09:38 PM

Mine does that too when it's cold - nothing to do with shifting, it just does that...

jnm2003 · 05-24-2010, 09:58 PM

Lets try and keep this thread for vins with clutch problems! So when we get a bunch of vins together we can see how many people are having a problem!! If u want I will start a thread for clutch discussions! Not tryin to be rude, i thk the purpose of the thread was just for vins

rcracer78 · 05-24-2010, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragrcr

For everybody with a goofy clutch, the ones that will stick the clutch pedal 1/2 way down and not fully engauge on an agressive slipper launch and ANYBODY that has trouble shifting to second at 5000+ RPM.

I have read where a few People said their trans is shifting good now that the updated clutch has been installed. And, that may be true. But my trans would not shift above 5000 to second gear, just grinds. I assumed the trans was OK and that it was just a warped clutch disc not fully dis-engauging that caused the trans to not shift to second at high RPM and that may still be true, but my Trans was damaged. So, yes my Trans had unintentional abuse, but that was directly caused by the clutch. I never personally missed a gear. Repeat, I never missed a gear. Just grinded it once when the clutch was slipping and I did not know it and when the clutch was hot and not disengauging on the shift to second as I have seen many others post.

Well, the TECH working on my car took my trans apart and the 2nd gear syncros and blocker rings (not sure of exact terms) were trashed. He took me in the back and showed me the parts and my trans completely taken apart. The Brass part was all worn down and scored and the steel piece was worn and had blue spots on the outside.

I am so glad this dealer did not second guess me in any way and decided on their own to take my Trans apart.

Interesting......I have a feeling if they were to open my trans they would discover the same thing....destroyed synchro. How do I get my dealer to check it out? I already told them the shifter was very notchy/binding from 1st to 2nd and their response was "operating as designed". You guys can clearly hear my crunchy shifter in the video, right?

Moorepheus · 05-24-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

The herky jerky thing is from the driver most of the time.

How exactly is it the from the driver? I can set my cruse at 45 in 4th gear and feel it while the car is still warming up. How does that have anything to do with the driver. I can understand the "LUGGING" in LOW RPMS, but that's what we are talking about.

*Milk 1027* · 05-24-2010, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcracer78

Interesting......I have a feeling if they were to open my trans they would discover the same thing....destroyed synchro. How do I get my dealer to check it out? I already told them the shifter was very notchy/binding from 1st to 2nd and their response was "operating as designed". You guys can clearly hear my crunchy shifter in the video, right?

yeah, mine isn't like that at all.

motorhead · 05-24-2010, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moorepheus

How exactly is it the from the driver? I can set my cruse at 45 in 4th gear and feel it while the car is still warming up. How does that have anything to do with the driver. I can understand the "LUGGING" in LOW RPMS, but that's what we are talking about.

I was thinking of how the car can react when pulling out in first sometimes depending on how the drive works the pedals. Sorry.

CynAgain · 05-24-2010, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moorepheus

Mine was warm, only home long enough to put work cloths on. Have to pay attention when I am backing out of the drive way. Was my foot on the clutch padel or not...I don't remember. Sounded/Felt like something scraping the drive shaft

The drive shaft will hit the heat shield in reverse under the right conditions. I think everyone gets out and looks under the car the first time it happens but its not a big deal.

KATHY63 · 06-01-2010, 06:39 PM

Ours does the herky jerky thing too. It doesn't seem how cold or warm, it is usually first thing out of the garage and maybe a couple blocks later it is better. As for the new clutch number, my husband works at a dealership and can check for campaigns and any other thing for the camaro and he said there isn't a new clutch.

05-24-2010, 08:31 PM	#85
dragrcr 2SS 6M Drives: 2010 2SS 6M Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Rancho Cucamonga , CA Posts: 113	WARNING For everybody with a goofy clutch, the ones that will stick the clutch pedal 1/2 way down and not fully engauge on an agressive slipper launch and ANYBODY that has trouble shifting to second at 5000+ RPM. I have read where a few People said their trans is shifting good now that the updated clutch has been installed. And, that may be true. But my trans would not shift above 5000 to second gear, just grinds. I assumed the trans was OK and that it was just a warped clutch disc not fully dis-engauging that caused the trans to not shift to second at high RPM and that may still be true, but my Trans was damaged. So, yes my Trans had unintentional abuse, but that was directly caused by the clutch. I never personally missed a gear. Repeat, I never missed a gear. Just grinded it once when the clutch was slipping and I did not know it and when the clutch was hot and not disengauging on the shift to second as I have seen many others post. Well, the TECH working on my car took my trans apart and the 2nd gear syncros and blocker rings (not sure of exact terms) were trashed. He took me in the back and showed me the parts and my trans completely taken apart. The Brass part was all worn down and scored and the steel piece was worn and had blue spots on the outside. I am so glad this dealer did not second guess me in any way and decided on their own to take my Trans apart. __________________ I "love" Drag Racing and Women!

05-24-2010, 09:38 PM	#91
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,298 View My Garage	Mine does that too when it's cold - nothing to do with shifting, it just does that... __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

05-24-2010, 09:58 PM	#92
jnm2003 Drives: O2 GMC & 2010 camaro SS IBM 6M Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: US Posts: 257	Lets try and keep this thread for vins with clutch problems! So when we get a bunch of vins together we can see how many people are having a problem!! If u want I will start a thread for clutch discussions! Not tryin to be rude, i thk the purpose of the thread was just for vins __________________ 2010 camaro SS/RS Manual IBM. NEW TIME 12.24 @ 114 mph. -[B] street tires, Hurst short throw, Halltech yellow jacket intake, AR long tube 1 7/8 headers, and a tune. 12.82 @ 110 MPH 1.92 60ft ALMOST Bone Stock ONLY MOD IS Borla mufflers.

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05-24-2010, 08:43 PM	#87
Silver Ice Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss-rs Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: RI Posts: 845 View My Garage	Mine has not stuck yet, but engages almost all the way to the top. had a C-5 Corvette before this and never had a clucth problem.

05-24-2010, 09:33 PM	#89
Shark547 Drives: Camaro 2 SS Manual Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eau Claire Posts: 14	I get the herky jerky thing, but, only when the temp is below 50 degrees outside.

06-01-2010, 06:39 PM	#98
KATHY63 Drives: 2010 IOM manual 2SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: garage exceapt weekends Posts: 214 View My Garage	Ours does the herky jerky thing too. It doesn't seem how cold or warm, it is usually first thing out of the garage and maybe a couple blocks later it is better. As for the new clutch number, my husband works at a dealership and can check for campaigns and any other thing for the camaro and he said there isn't a new clutch.