where is the logic?

[jebckr]

I get the feeling he's not looking at the newer mustang. An 08 6 cly with 50k miles on it is only going to run arounf 14k as opossed to the cheapest Camaro LS being around 24k.

Point being, I'd guess this is a money issue more so than a horsepower one. I'd just ask him, if he says he doesn't want you to have to much power then respectfully show him the HP of LS vs mustand 6cly, 8cly, etc. Then again, you don't have a lot of barganing power so just be happy with whatever you get.

[suprspinner]

im going to be happy with what ever i get, but he has said to me that he will get me a v8 2011 mustang but any word of a camaro is a hell no, even v6 so i dont under stand where he is coming from, the only things he has said to me is that no 16 yr old has a camaro but according to this forum thats a lie and i will be 17b and half when i get me newer car

[REVENGE]

Originally Posted by USAFJeeper

Some people refuse to buy GM right now cause of the bailout. That may be it.

I have seen a few right wingers post exactly that on a several forums. Anyway the Mustang is close enough in performance for it not to matter much if you have to "settle" for that instead of the camaro.

[suprspinner]

yea i know that, but my question is why do you guys think he is so against camaro's the hp is the same when you drive the camaro does it feel big, do you think a new driver may have difficulty driving it?

[67Redux]

Originally Posted by suprspinner

yea i know that, but my question is why do you guys think he is so against camaro's the hp is the same when you drive the camaro does it feel big, do you think a new driver may have difficulty driving it?

The only way your going to know why is to ask him, if he doesnt have an answer then its probably because he`s a Ford fan.

[suprspinner]

well even if i bring up the word car with him he gets angry the says your not getting a camaro and walks away from me

[USAFJeeper]

Originally Posted by REVENGE

I have seen a few right wingers.

I resemble that! haha I just don't subscribe to the whole magazine


Look just go get a V8 Mustang, read some mustang boards, do a build on it online and then go get him. After college etc, get a Camaro. I waited 33 years for mine Course I didn't get one cause I was so poor I had to use my girlfriends Chevette!

[Milk 1027]

Originally Posted by suprspinner

well even if i bring up the word car with him he gets angry the says your not getting a camaro and walks away from me

Sounds like that's a personal problem and something that maybe you should talk over with him instead of a bunch of strangers on a Camaro forum.

[80Zedder]

Tell your dad that I said to let you get a Camaro, which keeps me in work. or i am coming down there with a knuckle sammich without the bread!!

[suprspinner]

Originally Posted by 80Zedder

Tell your dad that I said to let you get a Camaro, which keeps me in work. or i am coming down there with a knuckle sammich without the bread!!

hahaha will do

[roccky08]

I also believe that it is a visibility issue for a new driver. He might have felt cramped and saw little to no visibility, comming from a benz, beemer guy. He might have concluded that it is a big beast meant to go straight only.

I suggest that it is now time to have a mature talk with your dad regarding all 3 vehicles. I suggest you approach him and request a 30 minute sit down or "meeting" with him. Tell him that you want to go over the different test drives and vehicles. The conversation should go more in the line as a business proposition, one that you cannot be biased towards the Camaro. Don't even start out talking about the Camaro. this might educate your dad more about all 3 vehicles and probably realize that the Camaro is a really good vehicle.

For this meeting, you should print out all relevant information for all 3 vehicles and simplify into categories.

Example:

1) Obtainability - Include all discounts and and incentives, packages and value (what you get from what you pay for).
2) Resale - Give stats about resale value, awards given, depreciation.
3) Safety - Include all safety rating information
4) Ease of Drive - Include and give facts about traction, backup sensors, visibility, braking, On-Star or equivalent.
5) Incidentals/Extras - Insurance cost, oil change cost, gas cost, warranty, free road side assistance.

You have to keep in mind that the looks of the Camaro is never a winning argument with mom and dad. Print out all relevant information for all the vehicles During the coversation, and go over all the categories and ask him for his input in every category.

Together, rate the different vehicles and let the best car win. The purpose of the meeting should be lean towards education and not to what you want.

Maybe both of you will learn and make a sound decision together.

[suprspinner]

ok, see i havent been in a 2011 mustang yet, but it seems if the blind spots are the same,

[tw3ss]

Originally Posted by suprspinner

thank you, if only you could tell my dad that, but he says that the v8 mustang is just better

If its about safety buy the BMW. much better car make it an M3.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by suprspinner

ok, see i havent been in a 2011 mustang yet, but it seems if the blind spots are the same,

The rear visibility in Camaro is poor, no joke. Looking over your shoulder is really an exercise in futility. You really have to use your mirrors, and even then blind spots happen. Lame as it is, I'll be getting a couple of those little dome mirrors to put in the corner of my side mirrors, just to be safe- and I've been driving for almost a decade. A new driver almost certainly will have some issues merging/backing up in this car.