The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Before anyone gets started in here, I'm going to make sure to point out that nothing in the article or body of that car suggests that it is a Mustang GT. The GT has recognizable forward fog lamps mounted on the upper grille. Weird as that is, it is weirder to call something a GT without the obvious GT styling.

You need to learn your mustangs. That is the California package on the gt. They don't have the fog lights in the grill like the regular ones. Also it has the GT fake fuel filler on the back. It very obvious to me that it's a GT car.

[Kyle2k]

Very curious as to why they think they need to rev it to 9k rpm though?

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by motorhead

You need to learn your mustangs. That is the California package on the gt. They don't have the fog lights in the grill like the regular ones. Also it has the GT fake fuel filler on the back. It very obvious to me that it's a GT car.

Are you suggesting then that Ford only intends to produce a turbo Mustang as a California Special? Since the regular GT is more common, why wouldn't Ford use an original GT for testing? While it is possible for this to be a California Special, the article still doesn't indicate for any reason that the vehicle is a GT, instead suggesting that the vehicle might be an alternative trim level. Of course, many companies have a history of offering more than one engine choice, so an EcoBoost V6 might also be a Mustang GT. This, however, creates problems at Ford. Does Ford offer the EcoBoost model with all available packages, complicating the ordering of Mustangs by creating countless additional combinations based on the addition of one engine, or does Ford offer the EcoBoost V6 as its own special package, marked by its own independent badging? People often complain that the number of packages on vehicles is complicated, so Ford could simplify this by offering the EcoBoost as its own package. Besides, doesn't Ford badge California Special Mustangs to separate them from other GTs and build value in this package?

Here's an even bigger question: do you really think Ford has already thought of all of this so early in the process? They're probably more occupied with engineering than deciding how to sell something that isn't yet ready for production in this model.

Let's speculate further: do you think Ford would work on a production vehicle and not conceal its drivetrain? Most production vehicle mules are camouflaged, so that brings about an even bigger question: does this argument matter? We could be arguing about how Ford sells EcoBoost Mustangs all day, assuming they even decide to offer this as an option in the foreseeable future, when this vehicle, in all probability, is as aftermarket to Ford as a Lingenfelter Camaro is to GM. Badging doesn't make a car production.

I appreciate that you're telling me to get familiar with Mustangs on this Camaro forum. Maybe the problem is that neither of us is familiar with the Mustang we saw in that article and not that I have no idea how the competition looks.

[cab2g]

9K RPM? that thing will sound like a friggin crotch rocket

But still, I think it's cool that Ford is trying different engine configurations. Lets say they put this model on the market and it turns out to be a flop for whatever reason. Lesson learned. But if it sells like hotcakes because it combines performance spec X with sensibility spec Y, then good for them!

I'd love for there to be a lot of engine options for the Camaro too. Like the good ol days, pick the engine that is right in your price range and suits your style! (I wasn't alive then, but it must've been nice)

[Stew]

That front end is also similar to what the local Roushes have, anyway, i would guess it is some kind of Ford test mule by the off the shelf parts. CS front, spoilerless rear, GT500 performance package rims. From the ride height it also looks like it has a different suspension than a base GT. Actually this could either way. Off the shelf parts, all the extra test equipment means it could be a Ford Mule, the 9000 rpm tach is probably not how the engine rev, but I could see a 7000 or even 7500 RPM redline, on the otherhand, the lowered suspension and a-pillar guages and roushish lower lip means this could be a mustang mule for an aftermarket company, we need more info!

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Are you suggesting then that Ford only intends to produce a turbo Mustang as a California Special? Since the regular GT is more common, why wouldn't Ford use an original GT for testing? While it is possible for this to be a California Special, the article still doesn't indicate for any reason that the vehicle is a GT, instead suggesting that the vehicle might be an alternative trim level. Of course, many companies have a history of offering more than one engine choice, so an EcoBoost V6 might also be a Mustang GT. This, however, creates problems at Ford. Does Ford offer the EcoBoost model with all available packages, complicating the ordering of Mustangs by creating countless additional combinations based on the addition of one engine, or does Ford offer the EcoBoost V6 as its own special package, marked by its own independent badging? People often complain that the number of packages on vehicles is complicated, so Ford could simplify this by offering the EcoBoost as its own package. Besides, doesn't Ford badge California Special Mustangs to separate them from other GTs and build value in this package?

Here's an even bigger question: do you really think Ford has already thought of all of this so early in the process? They're probably more occupied with engineering than deciding how to sell something that isn't yet ready for production in this model.

Let's speculate further: do you think Ford would work on a production vehicle and not conceal its drivetrain? Most production vehicle mules are camouflaged, so that brings about an even bigger question: does this argument matter? We could be arguing about how Ford sells EcoBoost Mustangs all day, assuming they even decide to offer this as an option in the foreseeable future, when this vehicle, in all probability, is as aftermarket to Ford as a Lingenfelter Camaro is to GM. Badging doesn't make a car production.

I appreciate that you're telling me to get familiar with Mustangs on this Camaro forum. Maybe the problem is that neither of us is familiar with the Mustang we saw in that article and not that I have no idea how the competition looks.

Wow! I didn't mean to upset you. It wasn't meant to be that at all. You read way more into it than It was. You said that it didn't have the styling of a gt ,and all I was pointing out was that is very well could be and most likely is a gt in that picture. Nothing more nothing less. I guess I should of use some other smiley to show that I wasn't trying to be a smart ass. Why is everyone so touchy all the time on this forum? I've been trying to post less and view more because of this very thing happening. I guess people just take me the wrong way sometimes. Sorry for offending you.

[Sax1031]

It was only a matter of time before ford put the ecoboost in the stang. Very interested to see where this goes.

Or Inside the line could be wrong and it is a turbo 5.0. I could see this being a test mule for the Cobra that will be coming out.

[Entaille]

ford is going absolutely crazy with the different mustang configurations.

[snakekiller]

This is what you called a Boss 302 mule, the same one reported seen a few month ago.
its exactly the same one, i don't see a inter-cooler anywhere and it has the same Boss 302 gauge cluster.

Here the link:http://forums.themustangsource.com/f...potted-483153/

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by snakekiller

This is what you called a Boss 302 mule, the same one reported seen a few month ago.
its exactly the same one, i don't see a inter-cooler anywhere and it has the same Boss 302 gauge cluster.

Here the link:http://forums.themustangsource.com/f...potted-483153/

if it is the Boss mule and Inside the Line got confused.

[SLOWHITE]

That motor was fitted for the Mustang over two years ago. When Chevy came out with the current Camaro with the ls3, Ford put a hold on the v6 and decided to build a v8, as long as it fit on the then current 4.6 bore centers. Since all the r&d was already done, it only makes sense to add a little cheap variety to the Mustang. Too bad I don't have a freind that is an engineer at Chevy instead of Ford.

[assasinator]

Fellas, there are romors in the mustang world that with SVT coming back, they are making another SVO mustang. what nobody knows, is the drivetrain for sure. most hope its a 4 cylinder turbo with current V8 power. They have a lot of options on which turbo motor they go with.

if it is a true SVO, it will weigh significantly less than a GT, have far better handling, and equal power.

[Sax1031]

Would love for the SVO to come back.

[assasinator]

the shelby's are coming to an end. SVT, or SVO as it used to be known is responsible for the new batch of performance stangs.