Intake manifold

[1JEWLDSSRS]

Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

Thats where I'm at. It drives differently, I noticeably lost low end. Its still fine because I'm a 6L80 with 3.91, but it is noticeably more sluggish on the low end if you're just putting around. This changes as soon as I dip into the throttle because of the converter, the gears, and how its set to shift. I'm immediately in the sweet spot and stay there until I let off. And just like the low end was noticeably weaker with normal driving, the top end is noticeably more when getting on it. You know me, I will get track data as soon as possible. Temps and DA are not going to help, so you're not really getting a total apples to apples for track data until November, when I ran my previous PR. It feels faster though. I totally get it though, zz430. Its not for everyone.

.......but it IS for meeeee

Same here, car drives a little differently for sure, but with the converter I have and when you get on the throttle it just flashes up and then it's game on until redline, or you let off of it. But it is a fun car to drive no matter what. Most of the time when I want to just let her rip, I manually down shift so the rpm's are up a bit and then whack it and this thing just wants to eat. I really wanted to get to the track to get some times on it but it got too hot here too quick, so that will have to wait. Next is gonna be the 3.91 gears like Chris has so I can get that tq put down a little better. But gotta say, this is one badass street car now. Good job Chris..

[13SSCamaro]

This manifold definitely is better served on an engine with either ported or aftermarket heads, bumped compression, stroked engines and FI. The drop in low end and the 12rwhp gain up top on stock displacement and stock heads seems about right but will dramatically improve with supporting mods.
My set-up will definitely improve with this manifold.

[Clarkstar]

Originally Posted by 13SSCamaro

This manifold definitely is better served on an engine with either ported or aftermarket heads, bumped compression, stroked engines and FI. The drop in low end and the 12rwhp gain up top on stock displacement and stock heads seems about right but will dramatically improve with supporting mods.
My set-up will definitely improve with this manifold.

Of course it is.... I'm surprised at those who are demanding a side by side dyno comparison on a stock motor. This just doesn't make sense. For this intake to really shine you need a cam and ported heads at a minimum... in my opinion.

[Roader]

Originally Posted by Clarkstar

Of course it is.... I'm surprised at those who are demanding a side by side dyno comparison on a stock motor. This just doesn't make sense. For this intake to really shine you need a cam and ported heads at a minimum... in my opinion.

Nobody has asked for side by side on a stock motor. A cam and heads will make any intake look better. I’ve been arguing from beginning that this intake should be used on FI or a 416+ ci motor. But I’ve been chided over and over for that and told it’s such a great intake because it looks good

[Chris49066SS]

Originally Posted by Roader

Nobody has asked for side by side on a stock motor. A cam and heads will make any intake look better. I’ve been arguing from beginning that this intake should be used on FI or a 416+ ci motor. But I’ve been chided over and over for that and told it’s such a great intake because it looks good

I got ya, Roader, its just gonna take time and be a process to get ya the results. No plans to do a stroker though. None yet, at least. It would be the time to forge it though, so it makes pretty good sense and would be convenient

[Roader]

Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

I got ya, Roader, its just gonna take time and be a process to get ya the results. No plans to do a stroker though. None yet, at least. It would be the time to forge it though, so it makes pretty good sense and would be convenient

I get that. I’m in same boat as you guys with my super Vic on sbe. I picked up hp in upper rpm range and lost tq. It’s expected but a few on here seem to think the lod is a magical intake that will perform differently than what it does in a sbe na car

[Clarkstar]

Originally Posted by Roader

Nobody has asked for side by side on a stock motor. A cam and heads will make any intake look better. I’ve been arguing from beginning that this intake should be used on FI or a 416+ ci motor. But I’ve been chided over and over for that and told it’s such a great intake because it looks good

Mine picked up 51 hp with just the LOD and having my heads cnc ported. Imo... that's great

[Clarkstar]

Originally Posted by Roader

I get that. I’m in same boat as you guys with my super Vic on sbe. I picked up hp in upper rpm range and lost tq. It’s expected but a few on here seem to think the lod is a magical intake that will perform differently than what it does in a sbe na car

Several 100 posts in this thread... I think I've read them all. No one said it was a magical intake.

[Roader]

Originally Posted by Clarkstar

Mine picked up 51 hp with just the LOD and having my heads cnc ported. Imo... that's great

So you picked up about 20 with the lod. You could have done that with about any aftermarket intake. We saw with the latest comparison with an actual baseline done of 12 rwhp so imagining 20 additional rwhp could be right.

[l.o.d_yankee]

Originally Posted by Clarkstar

Several 100 posts in this thread... I think I've read them all. No one said it was a magical intake.

I dont recall seeing that either lol we make sure to let anyone who is intrested in our X1 that we recommend heads,cam and if auto a converter to see the best gains from our manifold. Full exhaust and gears should help as well.

[Clarkstar]

Originally Posted by Roader

So you picked up about 20 with the lod. You could have done that with about any aftermarket intake. We saw with the latest comparison with an actual baseline done of 12 rwhp so imagining 20 additional rwhp could be right.

Possible.... but if have an LOD under the hood you'll look way better doing it! That's a fact

[sixty9fordkiller]

Originally Posted by Roader

So you picked up about 20 with the lod. You could have done that with about any aftermarket intake. We saw with the latest comparison with an actual baseline done of 12 rwhp so imagining 20 additional rwhp could be right.

well chris' manifold was rod modded

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[zz430camaro]

These are not surprising results, it follows all the other short runner intakes, you can't fight physics. If you want to spin a LS3 past 6500 on a regular basis then it will work great.

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/gian...dyno-shootout/

This is a great article, Holley Hi-Rise is one of the best, too bad you can't fit it under the freakin hood.

[Tajefe Couple]

My cars power starts dropping of around 6500-6800. I've pulled it out to 7200 rpm and power drops off some. Since I have the SS4, the rod mod, 3:91's, 4K stall along with some other cool things think it would be nice to be able to keep the power up over 7k. Sure seems like a setup like I have sure should pull harder on the top? Perhaps a X1 and trading out my ported TB for a 102 would help. Don't know how I feel about loosing torque though Keep thinking about going to the next step with a Procharger just worried about the strain it might put on my 90k mile L99.
Have to commend Chris for putting up his numbers, so many say they will and then nothing. Sure the direction his is headed it will be more than the typical beast! That LOD sure looks sweet