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07-22-2007, 07:25 PM | #100 |
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Yeah I agree, SS is way overused
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07-22-2007, 11:34 PM | #101 |
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I'd love to see the ZL1 in a 5th Gen. Oh yeah.....
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07-23-2007, 07:45 AM | #102 |
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07-23-2007, 09:08 AM | #103 | |
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07-23-2007, 09:15 AM | #104 | |
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BUT NO 4 cylinder car should ever have an SS badge on it in my opinion. And there would have to be some serious motor work for any Ecotec motor to give me a spanking. My camaro is putting down north of 430 rwhp. Im not saying its not a good engine, its just not worth of the SS name IMO. There is no pedigree behind it, its just a 4 banger with a nameplate slapped on it. Its nothing special, i still remember when SS meant something...you know, like SUPER SPORT. Not Super Slow like it does nowadays. |
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07-23-2007, 09:48 AM | #105 |
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If you look at the sides of the new camaro and the back, clearly you do not want any stupid stickers on there that say "Z28" or "ss".
Hopefully there will just be one tiny emblem in the front grill and nothing else. A car that looks this good will be ruined with any kind of weird emblems. On the back there is a chevy "bowtie". I assume they will stick "SS" there. To me that doesn't look good. The tail looks so clean without any kind of lettering. its going to start looking like a 77 camaro again with the unnecessary labels. I would just leave a bowtie there. An SS car should just have a different hood than a z28 car. and the rims and suspension might be different. It will be very interesting how they deal with that. Even the new mustang does not say mustang anywhere on the whole car. People already know what it is. |
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I feel like if the car is out of the norm and performs well an SS badge is okay. Its really just the appearance package crap that irritates me. All show no go should get no SS. I hope the Z-28 is your 400+ horse car thats affordable to the average American. I think the SS should be a step up in all around performance and something like a diff. hood or rims to set it apart. |
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07-23-2007, 11:26 AM | #107 | |
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But to me, Z/28 needs to get back to where it used to be. But then again, so does the SS badge. I guess we will have to wait for the General to decide on that for us though... And by the way, I dont believe that there was ever an SS Vega Last edited by Stig; 07-23-2007 at 04:37 PM. |
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07-23-2007, 11:57 AM | #108 | |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Vega Camaro SS Chevelle SS Nova SS Impala SS El Camino SS
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07-23-2007, 12:01 PM | #109 | |
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The limited-edition 1975 to 1976 Cosworth Vega was a special performance version of the subcompact introduced long before cars like the Golf GTI or Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. Only 2,062 were built the first year. It was fitted with a fuel-injected DOHC 2.0L 16-valve version of the engine designed by Cosworth Engineering in England, which was famous for its racing engines. Built by Chevrolet at its Tonawanda engine plant, the engine was fed by Bendix electronic fuel injection controlled by a computer in the glove box. First planned in 1969, the first 1971 development engines delivered an impressive 180 bhp. It had special stripes, wide radial tires on alloy wheels and antiroll bars. But when finally put into production, the 1975 engines produced only 120 bhp. At $5,916, it cost double a normal hatchback, and only $900 less than a Corvette. Car and Driver magazine would report "The 3.11 first gear matched to a 3.73 axle ratio makes the Cosworth Vega tough to launch from a stop". They measured 0-60 mph times of 8.7 seconds. In 2006 Inside Line wrote "Fat and strangled by emissions regulations and GM's own noise concerns, the Cosworth Vega was a disappointing car in every sense". This is decidedly misleading since all cars in 1975 and 1976 were similarly "fat and strangled by emissions regulations." In comparison to other affordable performance cars of those years it was light and fast. Only 3,508 were sold over two years. This fell so short of projected sales of 5,000 that 1,500 unused exotic Cosworth engines were simply scrapped for lack of demand. Though sales would be disappointing, it is today the Vega most sought by collectors. I wonder why it flopped??? JWz28. |
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07-23-2007, 02:14 PM | #110 |
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07-27-2007, 08:34 AM | #111 |
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A friend of mine had a Vega with racing stripes, specific wheels, and an upgrade interior, but I don't remember if it had the SS designation. I do remember he had to fill up the crankcase and the tank at the same time (!). The SS name has become so bastardized lately that I hope that the top dog is
Z-28 that's all I have to say about that................................. |
07-28-2007, 12:06 PM | #112 |
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TAG UR IT nailed it -- the difference in SS/Z28 is option package level. The Z28 derives from the actual package nomenclature used in ordering. The option package number for SS was....any guesses......Z27. So in GM's eyes, the Z28 was the high dollar package and what they thought of as top of the line. As for the buying world, it wasn't as much as one was better - just a different approach.
COPOs were not even something the general public could buy and Yenko's were basically an aftermarket mod. So I wouldn't really consider them in the equation. All that said - I'm an SS man because of the big block availability. Always wanted an SS427. Others, though, liked the panache of the Z28. I'm going to hold out for a convertible and hope like heck they put out an SS and not a Z first. A friend was on a wait list for the Solstice and then got off it when he heard they were producing a GXP performance car - he finally got it six months later. So I suspect same will happen with our beloved Camaro - first ones will be nice and then 6 months to a year in - BAM - they'll whip out the big boys. Same happened with my work car. Bought a second year model VUE with a peppy V6 and then Saturn intros Red Line version in year 3 with more HP. Thanx GM. LOL. |
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