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[radz28]

Originally Posted by Croatcamaro2010

you can buy whatever and mod it, but it aint gonna have that Z-28 badge

Will it be as fast as some of these tuner cars? Possibly not. Will it have a lot of the attributes 'monkey pointed out? Yup. The car will be a matched package that is going to accelerate, brake, handle, and have the durability of a factory designed car, and with the way GM's been going for the last several years, I'm with that. Will I still mod' it when I can? Sure - when $$$ permits, but I'll already be probably 80% close my my ultimate goal for my car if Z28 comes the way I'm thinking it will, so

Originally Posted by fbodfather

ALWAYS "Keep the Faith" --



If you don't - well - -



Meanwhile: CAFE standards will affect what each of us can purchase in the future.

Moral of the story: Exercise your right to vote this November -- and EVERY election. Those of us in America easily forget how fortunate we are to have the right to vote...............

(my views -- and not necessarily the views of the company for which I work...)

Originally Posted by Speed74SS

You make some decent points but....

The Z28 wasn't out in late 2009 when I bought my car.

Breaks every other week -- HA HA. I have 13,000 miles on my car and no problems yet. I also take it to the road track and abuse it twice a month.

Although Lingenfelter's warranty may not be as good as GM's, it is still damn good and I at least have some piece of mind.

I could never spend 50k on a new car -- so spending 36k plus 12k plus another 12k over time was the only way I could do it.

I would never get rid of my LPE Camaro for a Z28.....now if I did have a Z28, it would eventually be an LPE Z28.

Well - you just have a bad @$$ car and I think you'd be silly (no offense ) to get rid of it . I like you're LPE Z28

Originally Posted by nards444

Think thats how a lot of people are going to feel an play it. We can spend 31-34 on an SS spend 8-10 to make it just as fast, then another 10 later IF we have to. Also give it a year or so most of us will be able to find used chargers and new ones will go down in price as well. I wouldnt be so sure the GM warranty is going to be as awesome once they slap a charger on there. I dont think anybody is debating that the car is going to be cool, but 50+ is hard to swallow for somebody.

Is GM's warranty any less on other SC'd models? I don't understand what you're trying to say Why the focus on the SC? You don't think GM would upgrade brakes, chassis, suspension, etc.? I think there's something of value to be considered there, IMVHO.

[nards444]

As I explained earlier I wouldnt be so sure that the ironclad 5/100,000 will be on this SC. As I said before I know when I had issues with my turbo on a Ford they started jumping around the warranty and they did with my buddy his Roushe. Im not saying it wont be, maybe people with the Z06 can chime in. But I do know when it comes to factory installed SC sometimes the "wording" can be a little different.

I dont know if GM will upgrade all that stuff, the current brembos are more than enough to handle the extra horsepower, maybe vented rotors even if you go with larger calipers that is not a huge expense. Chasis isn't going nowhere its going to be the same, as far as suspension I can see an upgraded one, but yet again not a huge expense.

IMVHO I think all your going to see is beefed up SS with SC slapped on with probably a different front fascia with new badging, and probably a more unique interior. Its not going to be a totally new car. I think you will see this thing price out at 45, GM cant afford to have it cost more than the GT500 and they arent going to want it to encroach on its vette sales.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by nards444

As I explained earlier I wouldnt be so sure that the ironclad 5/100,000 will be on this SC. As I said before I know when I had issues with my turbo on a Ford they started jumping around the warranty and they did with my buddy his Roushe. Im not saying it wont be, maybe people with the Z06 can chime in. But I do know when it comes to factory installed SC sometimes the "wording" can be a little different.

I dont know if GM will upgrade all that stuff, the current brembos are more than enough to handle the extra horsepower, maybe vented rotors even if you go with larger calipers that is not a huge expense. Chasis isn't going nowhere its going to be the same, as far as suspension I can see an upgraded one, but yet again not a huge expense.

IMVHO I think all your going to see is beefed up SS with SC slapped on with probably a different front fascia with new badging, and probably a more unique interior. Its not going to be a totally new car. I think you will see this thing price out at 45, GM cant afford to have it cost more than the GT500 and they arent going to want it to encroach on its vette sales.

So is the warranty any different in ZR1 or CTS-V? Are those cars, and even Z06 only engines with new facias and stickers? No - they are not. Z06 doesn't even share the same brakes as ZR1, among other differences.

[nards444]

totally different world the vettes are of course for 100k you better get something different. With the camaro you will not?

[radz28]

Originally Posted by nards444

totally different world the vettes are of course for 100k you better get something different. With the camaro you will not?

CTS-V and Z06 are not $100K. Z06 (excluding Carbon) has improvements over the base 'Vettes, and even the GS. These cars aren't close to $100K. I don't understand your last comment

[nards444]

beg to differ on close to 100k

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/


man the first time ive seen pics of the new vette. Tell you what after seeing them if Im going to spend 50k plus I would not be spending it on a camaro, those things are bad A

[radz28]

Originally Posted by nards444

beg to differ on close to 100k

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/

Well - $25K is a lot of $$$ to me...

[nards444]

Originally Posted by radz28

Well - $25K is a lot of $$$ to me...

ok ok, sorry add in 7% tax and title and a few options you would be dang close to 100k.

[Speed74SS]

Originally Posted by radz28

Well - you just have a bad @$$ car and I think you'd be silly (no offense ) to get rid of it . I like you're LPE Z28

Thanks

Now, if the Z28 would have been out last year..... I would have fought the wife to get into one over the SS. Probably a battle I wouldn't have won and I would have ended up going the same way I did. I can't wait for the Z28 to come out - it will be a bad azz stock car with almost all of what people now strive for a modded SS to be. Plus it will finally give some competition to the GT500 - can't wait for those threads to start popping up when the Z28 is finally released.

[topgun1]

50-55g's may be the MSRP, but there is tax, including the gas guzzler tax i'm sure, title, doc fees, registration, options, and you know there will be an exorbitant dealer mark up, easily 10-20K or more on top of that. yep, you're pretty much looking at 70-80K for that car. Heck, my dealership has a Hendricks Racing car that basically has a s/c, a hurst, exhaust and some upgraded suspension and body components and has a 75K sticker!

[usmcjlp]

I do agree that the first year the Z28 is released there will be a large dealer mark up. That is if the dealers even sell it and don't keep it for themselves.

When the Shelby first came out dealers in the southeast were charging 15k over msrp or keeping it for themselves. I was unable to get one. I don't see why the Z-28 release will be any different. Dealers were ripping everyone off when the SS was released.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Speed74SS

You make some decent points but....

The Z28 wasn't out in late 2009 when I bought my car.

Breaks every other week -- HA HA. I have 13,000 miles on my car and no problems yet. I also take it to the road track and abuse it twice a month.

Although Lingenfelter's warranty may not be as good as GM's, it is still damn good and I at least have some piece of mind.

I could never spend 50k on a new car -- so spending 36k plus 12k plus another 12k over time was the only way I could do it.

I would never get rid of my LPE Camaro for a Z28.....now if I did have a Z28, it would eventually be an LPE Z28.

and you make decent points. but I wasn't able to purchase in 2009 (military move and buying a house). I will be able to buy a Z28 out right if I get this job come later this year. if I don't I'll have a good down payment.

the brakes every other week was obviously an exaggeration. but I have met quite a few modded camaros (4th gens mainly) that someone threw together didn't do all their research just power out put and ended up braking stuff, fixing that, braking more stuff. in other words they didn't put forth the research to find the weakest link and then upgrade those first. so instead of having a car they can just enjoy. they have a car in the shop.

btw lpe is not joe schmoe. . .just sayin. they do research and have been in the business long enough to know other areas besides power need to be beefed up first.

everyone has their price point for what they are willing to spend on a new car. I just don't see the point in spending 34,000+TTL and then sending it to lpe who's going to charge me 10,000 plus tax. . .or more. I don't like paying the government twice. I'd rather pay them once. especially since the tax rate in NC on new cars is 3%. hint as to why I'm buying in NC, but reg it in TN.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by topgun1

50-55g's may be the MSRP, but there is tax, including the gas guzzler tax i'm sure, title, doc fees, registration, options, and you know there will be an exorbitant dealer mark up, easily 10-20K or more on top of that. yep, you're pretty much looking at 70-80K for that car. Heck, my dealership has a Hendricks Racing car that basically has a s/c, a hurst, exhaust and some upgraded suspension and body components and has a 75K sticker!

Originally Posted by usmcjlp

I do agree that the first year the Z28 is released there will be a large dealer mark up. That is if the dealers even sell it and don't keep it for themselves.

When the Shelby first came out dealers in the southeast were charging 15k over msrp or keeping it for themselves. I was unable to get one. I don't see why the Z-28 release will be any different. Dealers were ripping everyone off when the SS was released.

stupid dealers will have that mark-up, and stupid buyers will pay it. if you're a smart buyer you'll shop around for one. you can fly anywhere in the country pick a car up and have a great time driving it back cheaper then the mark-ups. that's why I laughed at a dealer when he told me it cost me 10k to just order a camaro back during pre-orders for the 2010. I even explained it to him. and he acted like I was stupid. yes I didn't end up buying one but if I wanted to eat noodles for the next 4 years I could have.

I just don't understand why people are so willing to pay an extra charge. . .especially on a car they are going to be making over 90k of them a year. this is what gives GM a bad rep. bad dealers.



also the warranty issues people have been having. try other dealers. . .I've had issues out of one and taken it to another and they were very helpful. stop blaming ford for bad dealers.

(besides the fact I just don't like toyota) I just spent 4 hrs of my life yesterday in a toyota dealer ship getting a balance and rotation done. total charge $115, they also didn't finish fixing the original problem I took it in for. a loose panel, and wanted to charge me another $100 and 2 more hrs looking into why it was loose. also they wanted me to change out fluids because they weren't clear. . .not that they are due but they weren't clear like new fluid is. the total charge of the fuild change they wanted 651.76. I laughed and said give me my damn fj and I'm out of here.

also on the paper they marked the rims had scratches and the tires were worn abnormal. . .I looked when I calmed down and guess what. . .there are no scratches and the tires are wearing normally. they are trying to void a wheel and tire warranty that was purchased with the vehicle. do I think all toyota dealerships will do the same. I sure hope not. but I won't be taking it back to that dealership. that's for sure.

[diddiyo]

I'VE HEARD THE Z28 WILL BE $1,000,000 BECAUSE IT IS JUST THAT GOOD!!!