Vararam V6 intake installed!

[chicagobulls]

so seriously is there any sort of time table for when this will be available?


like days? weeks? months? years? decades? centuries?


just want to know since will want to buy an intake soon and want to know when this will come out im looking at the injen intake but want to see if this gives better performance

thanks

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by E.T.

Just out of curiosity, do they have fans or something that can be used to simulate high-speed airflow while on the dyno? Since this is a ram air system, I'd think that kind of setup would give the most realistic results?

I'd be interested to see what the gains are versus stock with none - low air speeds (like cruising speeds) versus high speeds (highway speeds).

[VR Baron]

This setup looks very similar in design and function as the one on my 98 z28. I know different engines and all but is almost the same design.You cleanup the air box restrictions and give it a really short path to the throttle body, same as on the ls1 v8 and in the same position as this one is. on the z its worth 8-10 hp with a k&n or about what we get with any shortram box setup.Now add the ram air duct, and to be good it better go all the way down to the airdam or close so the air hits the airdam and channels up into the new box I see.If the new box is sealed all around real nice you can even get a pressurizing effect after about 25 mph to help force the air in faster.
The ram air was worth about 10-15 hp more on top of the cleaned up box and free flow filter on a 300 rwhp v8. Take it all down about 25% or so to see what the v6 may get as a ballpark. Now you are at around 14-18 rwhp as a educated guess based on other results we seem to get with other units or items that never quite do as advertized on our cars.

On the dyno will not show ram air gains as the car is not moving. You have to have fans doing 60 mph to show anything from what I have read and been told by the mfgs. Most ram air claims in the past for hp were derived from the mph attained in a 1/4 run, example 1-1.5 mph or about 10-15 hp and they used the old 10hp=1 mph rule.So if you do get 15hp say, that will be at the end of the 1/4 and will take at least 100mph+ to see it.
When I cut the hole in the plastic baffle where the duct would go I got a noticeable increase but do to volume of air and being colder air. When I add the ram air duct I hardly noticed a thing until I was doing 70+ mph. I suspect the same will be here, hopefully sooner in speed though.
This speed is where I would think the vararam will start to out perform Ingen and the rest as they have no way to force the air in faster without a duct. It all depends on how well our finicky ecu responds to all that extra forced air I would think.

Anyway, food for thought.

[CamaroDreams07]

Originally Posted by blackbee

This setup looks very similar in design and function as the one on my 98 z28. I know different engines and all but is almost the same design.You cleanup the air box restrictions and give it a really short path to the throttle body, same as on the ls1 v8 and in the same position as this one is. on the z its worth 8-10 hp with a k&n or about what we get with any shortram box setup.Now add the ram air duct, and to be good it better go all the way down to the airdam or close so the air hits the airdam and channels up into the new box I see.If the new box is sealed all around real nice you can even get a pressurizing effect after about 25 mph to help force the air in faster.
The ram air was worth about 10-15 hp more on top of the cleaned up box and free flow filter on a 300 rwhp v8. Take it all down about 25% or so to see what the v6 may get as a ballpark. Now you are at around 14-18 rwhp as a educated guess based on other results we seem to get with other units or items that never quite do as advertized on our cars.

On the dyno will not show ram air gains as the car is not moving. You have to have fans doing 60 mph to show anything from what I have read and been told by the mfgs. Most ram air claims in the past for hp were derived from the mph attained in a 1/4 run, example 1-1.5 mph or about 10-15 hp and they used the old 10hp=1 mph rule.So if you do get 15hp say, that will be at the end of the 1/4 and will take at least 100mph+ to see it.
When I cut the hole in the plastic baffle where the duct would go I got a noticeable increase but do to volume of air and being colder air. When I add the ram air duct I hardly noticed a thing until I was doing 70+ mph. I suspect the same will be here, hopefully sooner in speed though.
This speed is where I would think the vararam will start to out perform Ingen and the rest as they have no way to force the air in faster without a duct. It all depends on how well our finicky ecu responds to all that extra forced air I would think.

Anyway, food for thought.

Forgive my ignorance, but haven't we been told time and time again how the LLT loves to run rich? Won't pushing more air in upset that?

Again, I'm not bashing, but all we can do right now is twiddle our thumbs and talk theory, so we might as well.

[VR Baron]

Originally Posted by CamaroDreams07

Forgive my ignorance, but haven't we been told time and time again how the LLT loves to run rich? Won't pushing more air in upset that?

Again, I'm not bashing, but all we can do right now is twiddle our thumbs and talk theory, so we might as well.

Yep, hurry and wait. It does seem to work so far but how much over injen if any and how much can the ecu take advantage of it before or if to much air leans it to much. To early to tell yet as with any new product. Only the dyno and the track will tell and we do need comparisons in this case I think as this is a different setup as Injen was compared to the short rams.We all say how much better any of these units are over stock but few have tested it back to back at the track or dyno. If they help on the street thats the main thing for most occasions for the fun factor, response and sound as thats where we drive. Maybe it will be better or maybe just one more good design to pick from.

[LSRevelry]

+1 on the LLT running rich... at least mine seems to want to do this.

This set up is better than just about anything I've seen. I like the style of this, and it is inline with some of Vararam's other unique intakes for Vettes and Trucks. As long as the set up has good integrity and provides more HP over stock- I'm good with that. I'm not a race car driver, but it is nice to have a little extra power when I want it.

Regardless, I very much like the ram air set up over the Injen (no hate), which I almost decided for. To each their own, but this new set up reminds me of the Fast Toys Ram Air for the 4th Gen along the lines of what someone else mentioned. I never had one but heard great things and it seemed to me as long as you keep the filter clean, the more filtered air you can get to an engine, the better.

If Vararam didn't care about numbers they wouldn't dyno test. I think Othr1 meant that they wouldn't fund a comparison study between theirs and others intakes, but like someone else said, the HP numbers are necessary, but for marketing purposes. Believe me, if Othr1 is posting about this, Vararam is watching closely for our feedback.

[scrming]

Originally Posted by CamaroDreams07

Forgive my ignorance, but haven't we been told time and time again how the LLT loves to run rich? Won't pushing more air in upset that?

Again, I'm not bashing, but all we can do right now is twiddle our thumbs and talk theory, so we might as well.

As long as the MAF housing is properly designed (basically same size as stock) so that the MAF is reading correctly, then no, it won't upset anything. The car should maintain it's proper A/F ratio.... What typically happens is aftermarket MAF housing maybe slightly larger, which ends with computer thinking the car is actually sucking in LESS air than it really is... that's when you start to lean things out....

[cntryman77]

I already know I want one, numbers or not...I'm not a racer & a few hp here or there doesn't bother me...I just hope they have them done & shipped to Vengence for the Camaro for Heros event like I was told so I can get mine...if not, I'll just have to see what other vendors have there

[gundaaniyan]

cant wait till it comes out

[VR Baron]

Sounds like a good unit if it works out. I like my setup on my 98, but as I just bought the Injen and it did kill my low rpm drone, I will stick with it.Dont see Vararam being a whole lot better on the street, but hope it is!

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by blackbee

Sounds like a good unit if it works out. I like my setup on my 98, but as I just bought the Injen and it did kill my low rpm drone, I will stick with it.Dont see Vararam being a whole lot better on the street, but hope it is!

Depending on the price, I may let you know how it performs and sounds compared to my airraid lol. Just need to see some numbers.

[Knein]

How does this thing prevent the intake from sucking in water during a thunderstorm? I'm just curious how water will affect this particular intake.

[ChadG]

Or even when washing your car, when rinsing you spray water into the grille.

Originally Posted by Knein

How does this thing prevent the intake from sucking in water during a thunderstorm? I'm just curious how water will affect this particular intake.

[VR Baron]

Originally Posted by ChadG

Or even when washing your car, when rinsing you spray water into the grille.

The unit on my 98 had a plate you could put on in the air box area under the filter to block off the airduct in case. Is very combursome and had to be done in anticipation of rain, but I never had a problem with it off.