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Old 04-16-2012, 09:45 PM   #99
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Those poor Mustang guys, I feel sorry for them..........
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:56 PM   #100
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I'm all for ditching the retro design, but not sure about essentially doing a RWD Fusion coupe.
Is it me or is Ford seriously ripping off Aston Martin's designs. Cut... Copy... Paste...
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:04 PM   #101
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I guess I'm gen Y based on the year of birth range, and I'm happy with the way the current Mustang looks. The Evos is a nice design, but the Mustang needs to look special, not just like the rest of the Ford lineup. Not saying it has to be retro, but it shouldn't be Ford all purpose design language copied and pasted onto a RWD car.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:10 PM   #102
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I guess I'm gen Y based on the year of birth range, and I'm happy with the way the current Mustang looks. The Evos is a nice design, but the Mustang needs to look special, not just like the rest of the Ford lineup. Not saying it has to be retro, but it shouldn't be Ford all purpose design language copied and pasted onto a RWD car.
I've been bandied around so many generations being born in 1982. Whatever ever happened to the Gen X thing? Reading these surveys about what I supposedly like is wow.....
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:28 PM   #103
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Fugly space ship styling. Looks like a Taurus.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:13 PM   #104
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Streach it a little, and it can be the Thunderbird or Lincoln Mark X, shrink it a little and add some Mustang design cues,and it might fly. Waiting to see how it pans out before deciding on getting a 2013 or a 2014(15).
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:14 PM   #105
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I've been bandied around so many generations being born in 1982. Whatever ever happened to the Gen X thing? Reading these surveys about what I supposedly like is wow.....
Friggin' marketers, right?

I grew up in a generation that began embracing metrosexual wussbags like the Backstreet Boys and the cast of Jersey Shore. Screw that, I want my car to look like it belongs to a guy who got done with a double shift at the steel mill and is going to end the night being tossed out of a bar.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:28 AM   #106
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You guys mention displacement as if it impacts weight. If its a Gen III GM V8, it weighs the same as every other Gen III GM V8.
Displacement, or rather engine output, DOES impact weight.

GM manufactures Gen-4 V8 engines that make from 302hp/305tq to 505hp/470tq. ALL weigh about the same. I dare say you need more "substance" to harness 505/470 than you do 302/305...

A 1SS Camaro weighs 3860. A ZL1 weighs 4120. An LSA weighs just over 100 lb. more than an LS3, right? So why does the ZL1 weigh 260 lb. more, after reducing 20-some lb. in the wheel/tire department?!

6-piston front brakes...HD Tremec...HD rear diff...HD rear axles...MRC...reinforcement...WEIGHT!!

You need heavier duty components for a V6 than a 4-cylinder. Which generally includes HD brakes. Which adds even MORE weight. NOT because the V6 weighs more, but because a V6 puts out more power...and torque...which "twists" the body/chassis, requiring more potential "structure" in the vehicle to resist that "bending". And that increased power adds greater dynamic abilities to the vehicle...greater speeds attainable, potentially, which requires greater capabilities/capacities, potentially, for ALL driveline pieces. Brakes, wheels/tires, suspension/driveline.

Same thing happens when you go from a V6 to a V8...heavier duty components add weight, which means a heavier car needs heavier duty brakes. You have those upgraded components present in a current V8-SS Camaro vs. the V6 LS/LT versions. For very good reasons... A 1LT Camaro weighs 3741. An LS3 weighs 60 pounds more than the V6. Yet a 1SS Camaro weighs 3860. 60 extra pounds of driveline components to compensate for the increased power of the V8...

There's MORE to the weight equation than just the added weight of the engine.

As to the continuing reference of FWD, you're polluting the engineering rationale and result with a red herring reference. Hell, why don't they start with a 3010 lb. Cruze Eco, stuff in a V8, and call it a day?!

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Old 04-17-2012, 09:53 AM   #107
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they actually did this story on my local news last night, and the three reporters were laughing about the mustang being styled like a Fusion, lol
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:03 AM   #108
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Its a mistake. I'm 30 years old and apparent target buyer and I want the timeless look that the pony cars have now. They look plenty modern with retro cues, all three of the pony cars are selling like hot cakes. Why obliterate what is working? Besides anyone the futuristic 4th Gen Camaro and how well that went? I love the Alpha platform...but by the same token, if the 130R is the next Camaro....its going to alienate fans young and old.


That design for a Mustang? NO! Please, Ford, don't do that to an American Icon ... you just don't DO that to a muscle car...
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:09 AM   #109
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Is it me or is Ford seriously ripping off Aston Martin's designs. Cut... Copy... Paste...
Not really a rip off since Ford owned Aston Martin until recently.

The Aston Martin grille is probably what I hate most about the Fusion though. Just looks out of place.
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:10 AM   #110
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Friggin' marketers, right?

I grew up in a generation that began embracing metrosexual wussbags like the Backstreet Boys and the cast of Jersey Shore. Screw that, I want my car to look like it belongs to a guy who got done with a double shift at the steel mill and is going to end the night being tossed out of a bar.
This is almost sig worthy.... Awesome.

It's an ok fusion coupe. Don't see the mustang in this.
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:11 AM   #111
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I'm not sure how much I like it because I don't see any Mustang in it at all, HOWEVER - I think it looks BAD@$$!
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:15 AM   #112
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It has nothing to do with who owned the company, that's still Aston Martins' look.
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