Camaro Brembo Big Brake Kit, Installed!!

[SoloSK71]

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

In your opinion, would the stock brakes, with upgraded pads, lines, and fluids be sufficient for drag racing applications- thought I would ask because when you say "track" I'm assuming you mean in autocross type of events in this case.

For 'drag' style like quarter mile yes they would be fine, if doing only two or three runs

For anything else, or if you are doing multiple hot laps then no, I would at the least look at upgrading the rotors to 2pc racing style of the same diameter as stock, maybe higher temp pads. If you were into serious racing, closed course or autocross then I would go with the caliper upgrades as well as larger 2pc rotors.

- SK

[Rogue Leader]

Originally Posted by SoloSK71

For 'drag' style like quarter mile yes they would be fine, if doing only two or three runs

For anything else, or if you are doing multiple hot laps then no, I would at the least look at upgrading the rotors to 2pc racing style of the same diameter as stock, maybe higher temp pads. If you were into serious racing, closed course or autocross then I would go with the caliper upgrades as well as larger 2pc rotors.

- SK

They would last way longer than 2 or 3 runs. In drag racing you're doing ONE high speed stop and then have plenty of time for them to cool off. These brakes, stock will last all day long at the drag strip. Upgrading these brakes for Autocross would take you out of stock class which is stupid unless you plan a lot of other upgrades. These brakes are perfectly fine for autocross there are rarely ever any high speed stops. They will be fine even at national level.

Fluid and pad material (not rotors, but you can do them too if you wanna go overboard) are all the upgrades that are needed for basic racing (drag, autox) and HPDEs. Calipers mentioned here are if you plan to go any further.

[MerlinZero]

You come all the way up here and dont say hi?

[mrcowboy]

It's awesome you were chosen for the prototype, but sadly this is one upgrade i would NEVER consider doing. The stock ones are good enough to handle higher speeds that horsepower gaining mods would provide. I would rather spend a few grand more and send my car to hennessey for the 570 package( which im considering doing once I get my car).

[stovt001]

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

Fluid and pad material (not rotors, but you can do them too if you wanna go overboard) are all the upgrades that are needed for basic racing (drag, autox) and HPDEs. Calipers mentioned here are if you plan to go any further.

And that's the beauty of the Camaro's stock brakes and the options we have for upgrading. Stock equipment is fine for even enthusiastic driving on public roads, and even some racing. If you're taking some first small steps into more serious stuff, you take some more small upgrades. It all seems relatively proportional to how committed you are. If you're just trying the waters, no need to spend $8K, just some simple adjustments like higher temp fluid and better pads will do.

[91Z28350]

Does anyone know if you can get cross-drilled rotors to go with the stock calipers? Since my car will be a street car with the occasional drag strip or autocross foray, I am looking for more of a cosmetic enhancement than anything. Thanks!

[2010SS]

beautiful

[ChevyThunder]

This thread is funny to read... first off your Camaro RS SS is not a race car it is a nice performance street car and the brakes on it are sufficient for some occasional spirited driving. You are also talking about a car that fully loaded costs 40k and for that amount of money it is a pretty damn nice car all the way around.

Two piece calipers have a tendency to flex under continual extreme use and if you do not have cooling run to your brakes no matter how large they are you can still boil the fluid and get fade ... For those with stock Brembos that are tracking your cars and getting fad look to trying some quality fluid and if there is anyway to get some direct cooling to the rotors ... different pads and even take a look at getting your rotors cryo treated . May be a simpler solution to spending 7k on new brakes .

I have huge Brembos and Lockheed's on my race cars and yet they are all cooled

These are the Lockheed's on my 935 .. that clam shell on top is fed fresh air by a 5" hose . 2200 lbs 850 hp fully dialed.... still need to cool the brakes.



This is my newer GT1 car 2000 lbs and 750hp with 15" rotors and Brembo endurance calipers and I still need to cool them too ...




All my rotors are cryo treated as are the backs of my pads

The upgraded Brembo's look bitchen and if you have the dough and want them go for it cool ... if you have the dough and don't feel the need so be it .. If you would rather spend the money else where then right on.. it's America

But for a few guys who think ... "wow I thought I got Brembo's and now I found out there are better Brembo's yadda yadda"... if you really thought you were getting the same Brembo's they put on a 150k Porsche Twin Turbo or Ferrari F50 or a 200,000 CL 65 AMG then I really don't know what to say ... I do not know any business in the world that makes one product... Burger King has a bunch of different brugers.... Chevrolet makes a Camaro and they make a ZO6 Corvette , Apple makes a few different iPhones and iPods.... different price levels to increase your customer base.

The brakes look great , congratulations.

[mondain]

I mustve missed the whole Brembo debacle; are people saying we are not getting real Brembos? Or are they real Brembos but just a lower grade/quality than other Brembos?

[SS Mike]

Originally Posted by ChevyThunder

This thread is funny to read... first off your Camaro RS SS is not a race car it is a nice performance street car and the brakes on it are sufficient for some occasional spirited driving. You are also talking about a car that fully loaded costs 40k and for that amount of money it is a pretty damn nice car all the way around.

Two piece calipers have a tendency to flex under continual extreme use and if you do not have cooling run to your brakes no matter how large they are you can still boil the fluid and get fade ... For those with stock Brembos that are tracking your cars and getting fad look to trying some quality fluid and if there is anyway to get some direct cooling to the rotors ... different pads and even take a look at getting your rotors cryo treated . May be a simpler solution to spending 7k on new brakes .

I have huge Brembos and Lockheed's on my race cars and yet they are all cooled

These are the Lockheed's on my 935 .. that clam shell on top is fed fresh air by a 5" hose . 2200 lbs 850 hp fully dialed.... still need to cool the brakes.



This is my newer GT1 car 2000 lbs and 750hp with 15" rotors and Brembo endurance calipers and I still need to cool them too ...




All my rotors are cryo treated as are the backs of my pads

The upgraded Brembo's look bitchen and if you have the dough and want them go for it cool ... if you have the dough and don't feel the need so be it .. If you would rather spend the money else where then right on.. it's America

But for a few guys who think ... "wow I thought I got Brembo's and now I found out there are better Brembo's yadda yadda"... if you really thought you were getting the same Brembo's they put on a 150k Porsche Twin Turbo or Ferrari F50 or a 200,000 CL 65 AMG then I really don't know what to say ... I do not know any business in the world that makes one product... Burger King has a bunch of different brugers.... Chevrolet makes a Camaro and they make a ZO6 Corvette , Apple makes a few different iPhones and iPods.... different price levels to increase your customer base.

The brakes look great , congratulations.

Great write up and excellent points. Thank you for this post, and thank you for the compliments.

[Erik@Torq]

Originally Posted by BigEnos

No one makes 20" r-compound tires yet anyway, so stock class is a lost cause.

Michelin Pilot Cup Sports, used as the Spec tire in the Porsche GT3 Cup in Europe!

Btw, I had my car on the track last weekend (Homestead) and the ran great. The stock brakes are plenty for track driving, but as several have said fluid is a first mod that must be done.

We are fabbing up a brake cooling kit, that with new rotors, pads and lines should be plenty sufficient on any track!

Here is a short video from when we where out testing, not much to see now, but more informative videos are on the way!

http://www.youtube.com/user/TorqSpee.../0/xJmJlNXiu30

[dtodd]

Yeah, nice brakes...those stock Brembos are just too small!

You guys in the warmer climes are killing me...you're cars are too damn clean!!

[Wesman]

Originally Posted by dtodd

Yeah, nice brakes...those stock Brembos are just too small!

You guys in the warmer climes are killing me...you're cars are too damn clean!!

4 piston aluminum calipers with 14" rotors are not "too small".

Anything bigger and you're need a wheel larger than 18". You should never need anything larger than a 14" rotor for street use, lets be realistic here, thats more than adequate for the intended use of the vehicle.

[dtodd]

Originally Posted by Wesman

4 piston aluminum calipers with 14" rotors are not "too small".

Anything bigger and you're need a wheel larger than 18". You should never need anything larger than a 14" rotor for street use, lets be realistic here, thats more than adequate for the intended use of the vehicle.

Sorry, I forgot to insert my "sarcasm" emoticon...I was being facetious. I thought they were a bit overkill, at least for general purpose use.