Poll: What is considered a ZL1 "bolt on"?

[mrvenicess]

Why dont the moderators of the fast list set down in black and white what is allowed in each catagory and what isnt? End of argument, perhaps!

[sycraft]

If its not part of the long block its a bolt on..

LONG BLOCK ENGINES HAVE THE FOLLOWING INCLUDED.

BLOCK, CRANKSHAFT, PISTONS, RINGS, MAIN BEARINGS, ROD BEARINGS, CAM BEARINGS, CAMSHAFT, TIMING CHAIN, SPROCKETS, LIFTERS, PUSH RODS, ROCKER ARMS, C...YLINDER HEADS, OIL PUMP, OIL SCREEN, AND GASKET SET.

so to really heat this up, is a different supercharger installed on an engine with a factory supercharger considered a bolt on or a power adder... technically I think that is even a bolt on unless an intake is not considered a bolt on

That one has always been a bit of a 'grey area'...technically speaking a blower or turbo swap on a car that came from the factory with a blower or turbo should still fall under the 'bolt on' category but the discussion might become a little interesting when talking about going from say an Roots type supercharger to a centrifugal

This is the best definition then:

Anything that doesn`t touch motor oil and is not considered a power adder such as supercharger, turbo or nitrous (unless factory installed).

Either way, its damn fast and who really cares, run what you brought.

[jessrayo]

Originally Posted by gen=5

Question your car Has almost 850rwhp,and your saying it can not run in the 10's,WTF....there are cars with 200 less rwhp running 10's passes all day long..you have thrown everything plus the kitchen sink in that beast...
Unless your just breaking it every time you run as i remember you posting that it blew up when you got it back from your tuner,which just seems like poor attention to detail on someones behalf. I am willing to bet with the right tires etc...my silly little vert could pull a 10.9 pass on the right day, or at least thats what i have been told my a couple of the shop's that have had it...

I never said my car cannot run in the 10's, I said it has not run in the 10's....yet. There are many reasons. First I have not had a track open, had a set of drag radials on rims, and had an operational engine all at the same time, ever....since I have owned the car. As soon as I get one problem worked out something else comes up. I had to wait months for ERL to build my current block and have not made a quarter mile pass on it because all the local tracks are closed. On the last engine block, while I was waiting on Weld to build my 17 " rims, I learned it is very difficult to modulate wheel spin on stock tires with 800 whp. I did get the car in the mid 11's with my road racing tires but didn't figure it was worth posting. Lastly, and now that all of the other stuff seems to be coming together, not sure if I have the skill to put it all together with a manual transmission because despite what everyone else says, I think it is kind of difficult to launch the car and blow through 3 shifts on the manual in less than 11 seconds. Especially when it just wants to fry the tires.... As a matter of fact I have scanned the entire fast list and as near as I can tell the fastest time any fully manual car has posted is 10.281 in cat 6, which is very impressive considering that other than a shot of nitrous, that car is NA on stock displacement. If you look at cat 7 there are a lot of slower heavy hitters comparable to my car. Many have blowers and nitrous, still in mid 10's when rowing the manual. Just my personal observation. I suspect all the serious drag racers buy a car with an auto trans and leave the manuals for hacks like me.

Originally Posted by mrvenicess

Why dont the moderators of the fast list set down in black and white what is allowed in each catagory and what isnt? End of argument, perhaps!

Well, when you post your time slip you list your mods and the fast list moderator confirms the class you are requesting a place in. In this case everything was disclosed and the car in question is posted in cat 10. The top spot. People can debate it if they want but the moderator looked at the data and posted it.