The mighty LSA supercharged V8.

[Robin Lawrence]

For those who don't know and have doubted the LSA here is a video of mine taken yesterday.

Old Jedi had a ride at the Fest, he knows

Link

http://s395.photobucket.com/albums/p...camaro1082.flv

[91Z28350]

Great run! Besides the LSA conversion, what have you done to her?

[BoostedX2]

Originally Posted by 91Z28350

Great run! Besides the LSA conversion, what have you done to her?

+1

robin, it seems that 2012-2013 will be a very good time to buy a muscle car, and I will be comparing all three, but am leaning toward the Z/28..I have a 2010 SS...what is your opinion on the 0-60 and 1/4 mile time of the Z/28 with LSA straight from the factory with a good driver?

Thanks!! for all your help!!!

[Robin Lawrence]

Hey guys, here is a link to an interview about the build. It lists some of the mods done to the LSA.

http://www.lsxtv.com/forum/robin-law...-lsa-2576.html


Z28 (if it gets the LSA ) will be on par with the CTS-V numbers. They are not far apart on the weight. Low 12's or mid 11's with sticky tires and a tune.

Thanks

Robin

[Ivan @ Southwest Speed]

Originally Posted by Robin Lawrence

1) The first is a mystery car that I am sworn to secrecy...Robin

Everyone love a "mystery car."

Ivan

[Robin Lawrence]

Originally Posted by Bad Karma

Everyone love a "mystery car."

Ivan

I have only heard rumors , whenever I ask any questions the conversations usually end.

It would be cool to see that car if it still exists.

Robin

[Z28RockStar]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

But you're assuming that people are going to cross-shop the Z28 and Corvette. As many people have said in the past, and I was/am one of them, just because two cars have a similar price point or power output, it does not make them competitors.

While there are a lot of people on this and other performance forums who would rather buy a Corvette than a Camaro, if the price point was near the same, there are a lot more that realize that they are two completely different cars built for two different purposes. Personally, I don't think a Z28 version of a Camaro, even at close to the same price and power output, is going to cut into the sales of base Corvettes. And certainly not the Z06.

I did not buy a GT500 because I could not afford a Corvette, nor did I buy it because I thought it offered better performance. I bought it because it was the vehicle that best suited my desires/needs at this point in my life.

Very well said, I would even venture to say, in my case i have kids, a wife, like to hang with friends, pets, pick up hot stranded chics ect ect (I'm a good samaritan, my biggest flaw), and i can fit MOAR of the afformentioned things in my Camaro as compaired to a Vette. Corvettes are ok for what they are, flashy and bang for the buck when compaired to a Lambo! lol =)

[Z28RockStar]

This is indeed the motor I would choose, didnt a GM source already state this motor would be the one? Hmm thought i recently read that in a Camaro5 forums, hmmm, if i can find that again i will post a link, unless someone beats me to it.

[BrazenBeast]

Originally Posted by Robin Lawrence

Yes and no, the bolt patter is the same for the tops. The LSA and the LSA have sensors in different positions and the fuel rails are different. For that reason you would need to make some modifications,

The LSA uses 1 square intercooler towards the rear or raised portion of the top. The air from the TVS 1900 goes straight up then makes the turn after passing through the intercooler core. The core sits on a square rubber gasket that is in a recess in the lower manifold.

The LS9 uses 2 intercooler cores that sit to the sdie of the opening of the TVS2300. The air makes the turn before the intercooler core. The LS9 lower has 2 rubber gasket strips that run the length of the manifold.

If you were to use the LS9 top on the LSA lower you would need to make some seals to close the gaps from the different gasket configurations. You could rig something up pretty easily but the efficency would suffer.

Here is the kicker, the LSA intercooler is less restrictive and more efficiant that the LS9. That statment should cause some LS9 huggers a little heartburn.

My thoughts.....of course

Robin

Do you know if the drive pulley lines up the same on the r1900 and r2300. Mainly I am wondering if the 2300 can be used with the ctsv front pulley system.

[KarFan]

LSA is an amazing engine and in the CTS-V world class. But I still don't think it's a great fit for the Camaro especially one wearing Z28. A uber expensive Chevy GT500 isn't the Z28 formula. I know the Z28 brand has been tarnished, watered down and almost lost since early in the second generation but that doesn't mean that GM needs to stray further from the point in the 5th Gen.
I'd rather see the LS7 dropped in and focus on improved handling and maybe even some weight reduction if Z28 is going on the fender. I know this won't happen and frankly 556 HP gives Chevy some bragging rights and there is no doubt the car will run some terrific numbers but it's not Z28 to me.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by BrazenBeast

Do you know if the drive pulley lines up the same on the r1900 and r2300. Mainly I am wondering if the 2300 can be used with the ctsv front pulley system.

It looks close... You're going to have to change the pulleys to match the rib count. Maybe a Lingenfelter snout conversion may work?... Interesting idea - KUDOS!!!

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by KarFan

LSA is an amazing engine and in the CTS-V world class. But I still don't think it's a great fit for the Camaro especially one wearing Z28. A uber expensive Chevy GT500 isn't the Z28 formula. I know the Z28 brand has been tarnished, watered down and almost lost since early in the second generation but that doesn't mean that GM needs to stray further from the point in the 5th Gen.
I'd rather see the LS7 dropped in and focus on improved handling and maybe even some weight reduction if Z28 is going on the fender. I know this won't happen and frankly 556 HP gives Chevy some bragging rights and there is no doubt the car will run some terrific numbers but it's not Z28 to me.

that sir is your personal opinion and although in some aspects I agree. like the weight reduction. BUT the LS7 is a limiting factor for performance minded individuals. while the LSA is a good engine to start off with.

but how can you say the Z28 is watered down when the 4th gen Z28 out handled the 1st gen? and it will be the same with the 5th gen. you can guarantee that.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

that sir is your personal opinion and although in some aspects I agree. like the weight reduction. BUT the LS7 is a limiting factor for performance minded individuals. while the LSA is a good engine to start off with.

but how can you say the Z28 is watered down when the 4th gen Z28 out handled the 1st gen? and it will be the same with the 5th gen. you can guarantee that.

A 1LE 4th Gen runs pretty dang good. My '02 Z28 wasn't watered down

[BoostedX2]

Lets say the Z is 2012 with the LSA and 6 speed, good driver, --what is the 1/4 mile time????????????