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SeaCompiler · 11-06-2017, 01:34 PM

Great thread. I just swapped the whole cradle out of my car and put the zl1 cradle in. No sweat really, but I noticed the ZL1 wiring harness has many more sensor wires and the connector is not the same. Does anyone have the wiring diagram for the zl1 rear cradle wiring harness? I only need to map the 4 ABS sensor wires to mine. I couldn't find any adapter online.

dentnshell · 11-06-2017, 03:50 PM

Could be Magnetic Ride Control connections. Other than that, the coolant lines are the only other things I can think of.

SeaCompiler · 11-06-2017, 07:53 PM

Mag ride, coolant and there are additional sensors on the control arms

paul3078 · 01-10-2018, 09:23 PM

So, I am doing this swap soon, have the GM kit. Can anyone tell me what the "exhaust mods" are that are needed with a stock exhaust system?

dentnshell · 01-10-2018, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by paul3078

So, I am doing this swap soon, have the GM kit. Can anyone tell me what the "exhaust mods" are that are needed with a stock exhaust system?

With the NPP exhaust, I don't remember having to make any mods.

paul3078 · 01-10-2018, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dentnshell

With the NPP exhaust, I don't remember having to make any mods.

I have regular exhaust, so hoping its the same, Thanks!

QUICRNU · 01-10-2018, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaCompiler

Great thread. I just swapped the whole cradle out of my car and put the zl1 cradle in. No sweat really, but I noticed the ZL1 wiring harness has many more sensor wires and the connector is not the same. Does anyone have the wiring diagram for the zl1 rear cradle wiring harness? I only need to map the 4 ABS sensor wires to mine. I couldn't find any adapter online.

I put my SS Cradle Harness on my ZL1 Cradle and removed the extra sensors no longer connected.

Worked like a charm.I do not believe you can plug anything into the wrong place based on length of wires and connectors.

fif_gen_powa · 01-13-2018, 11:15 PM

I purchased a used zl1 rear end with axles and driveshaft to swap into my manual trans SS Camaro and I'm ordering the trans flange along with all nuts and bolts.

On the gm parts list it shows Trans Flange Nut 1 89059464 and Trans Flange Washer 1 89059465 but these are not listed in the parts list on this post, are the ones on my SS trans flange I'm removing reusable or are these needed?

fif_gen_powa · 02-23-2018, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cc-rider

[*]Once the trans flange nut is removed, you can get a rubber mallet and bang it off.

I got the nut off but the trans flange won't budge? Anyone else have this problem trying to pry it off but man it's on there. Any thoughts?

SeaCompiler · 02-24-2018, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fif_gen_powa

I got the nut off but the trans flange won't budge? Anyone else have this problem trying to pry it off but man it's on there. Any thoughts?

It should be able to slide off with some prying after that pita nut is finally off. I did nothing with that trans flange once off. You cant reuse it. Get a good cheater bar for prying and go around each triangle to loosen it. Check the condition of the emergency brake cable connection when u have the driveshaft off. Good luck.

SeaCompiler · 02-24-2018, 12:24 AM

I ordered every part on the official parts list for the swap except for the driveshaft and rear end itself. I wound up not using some since i swapped the whole cradle. After spending $100 on that darn flange, the rest didnt seem to matter.

SeaCompiler · 02-24-2018, 08:16 AM

I just remembered, i used a set of pullers to get it off!

fif_gen_powa · 02-24-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaCompiler

I just remembered, i used a set of pullers to get it off!

Awesome that was my next step, I was just worried I ****ed it up somehow

760bowtie · 02-24-2018, 01:20 PM

I had the same issue. Used the puller and came right out

11-06-2017, 01:34 PM	#99
SeaCompiler ...not a marine biologist Drives: 2012 Camaro RY SS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Clarkesville, GA Posts: 752 View My Garage	Great thread. I just swapped the whole cradle out of my car and put the zl1 cradle in. No sweat really, but I noticed the ZL1 wiring harness has many more sensor wires and the connector is not the same. Does anyone have the wiring diagram for the zl1 rear cradle wiring harness? I only need to map the 4 ABS sensor wires to mine. I couldn't find any adapter online. __________________ Forged 416 stroker Turbocharged with Huron Speed with Cam Motion custom grind,Tuned by Vengeance, 8psi, 25% PowerBond UDP, Ported TB, shaved heads, LS9 gaskets, chromoly pushrods, BT trunnions & dual valve springs, IWIS, Might Mouse CC, SJM Line Lock,, MSD 2-Step, ZL1 Rear End, ZL1 spoiler, Strut Brace, ARP bolts, Skip shift elim, A-Pillar Gauges, FR Style 41 20X10, 3 inch exhaust, blackouts, Lowered, Custom badges, Hines vents,RPI fender vents, Technostalgia Tail Lights, Metra Kit, Pioneer stereo, Morimoto RGB Halos, "The Great Awakening" on gab.com

11-06-2017, 03:50 PM	#100
dentnshell Drives: Black 2014 2SS Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Oologah, OK Posts: 454 View My Garage	Could be Magnetic Ride Control connections. Other than that, the coolant lines are the only other things I can think of. __________________ 2014 L99 2SS. 595HP/571ft-lbs Mods: LSA Conversion 2.5" Upper Pulley, 65# injectors, GPI SS1 Cam, SP Long Tubes, ADM Race Scoop & CAI, NPP exhaust (DIY control), BMR 1" lowering springs, ZL1 Rear Differential / Axles, CF Side Strip / Hood Spear, Tint - Windows / Tails / Sidemarkers, Splash Guards, ADM Boost Gauge, ABL Dashkit, '68 Script Badges, ACS T4 Splitter, ZL1 Rockers from Gary's, Z28 Spoiler, Carbon Fiber Hood Vent, Summer - MRR FS01 Satin Black (10" Front 11" Rear) Winter, pictured-Drag DR 64's Satin Black (9" Front-10" Rear.)

11-06-2017, 07:53 PM	#101
SeaCompiler ...not a marine biologist Drives: 2012 Camaro RY SS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Clarkesville, GA Posts: 752 View My Garage	Mag ride, coolant and there are additional sensors on the control arms __________________ Forged 416 stroker Turbocharged with Huron Speed with Cam Motion custom grind,Tuned by Vengeance, 8psi, 25% PowerBond UDP, Ported TB, shaved heads, LS9 gaskets, chromoly pushrods, BT trunnions & dual valve springs, IWIS, Might Mouse CC, SJM Line Lock,, MSD 2-Step, ZL1 Rear End, ZL1 spoiler, Strut Brace, ARP bolts, Skip shift elim, A-Pillar Gauges, FR Style 41 20X10, 3 inch exhaust, blackouts, Lowered, Custom badges, Hines vents,RPI fender vents, Technostalgia Tail Lights, Metra Kit, Pioneer stereo, Morimoto RGB Halos, "The Great Awakening" on gab.com

01-13-2018, 11:15 PM	#106
fif_gen_powa Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Turbo Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,525	I purchased a used zl1 rear end with axles and driveshaft to swap into my manual trans SS Camaro and I'm ordering the trans flange along with all nuts and bolts. On the gm parts list it shows Trans Flange Nut 1 89059464 and Trans Flange Washer 1 89059465 but these are not listed in the parts list on this post, are the ones on my SS trans flange I'm removing reusable or are these needed? __________________ 388ci 91/104 Turbo TH400 8.3@164 https://instagram.com/turbo_ls3/

02-24-2018, 12:24 AM	#109
SeaCompiler ...not a marine biologist Drives: 2012 Camaro RY SS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Clarkesville, GA Posts: 752 View My Garage	I ordered every part on the official parts list for the swap except for the driveshaft and rear end itself. I wound up not using some since i swapped the whole cradle. After spending $100 on that darn flange, the rest didnt seem to matter. __________________ Forged 416 stroker Turbocharged with Huron Speed with Cam Motion custom grind,Tuned by Vengeance, 8psi, 25% PowerBond UDP, Ported TB, shaved heads, LS9 gaskets, chromoly pushrods, BT trunnions & dual valve springs, IWIS, Might Mouse CC, SJM Line Lock,, MSD 2-Step, ZL1 Rear End, ZL1 spoiler, Strut Brace, ARP bolts, Skip shift elim, A-Pillar Gauges, FR Style 41 20X10, 3 inch exhaust, blackouts, Lowered, Custom badges, Hines vents,RPI fender vents, Technostalgia Tail Lights, Metra Kit, Pioneer stereo, Morimoto RGB Halos, "The Great Awakening" on gab.com

01-10-2018, 09:23 PM	#102
paul3078 Drives: 2024 Nitro Yellow 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Tallmadge Ohio Posts: 209 View My Garage	So, I am doing this swap soon, have the GM kit. Can anyone tell me what the "exhaust mods" are that are needed with a stock exhaust system?

02-24-2018, 08:16 AM	#110
SeaCompiler ...not a marine biologist Drives: 2012 Camaro RY SS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Clarkesville, GA Posts: 752 View My Garage	I just remembered, i used a set of pullers to get it off! __________________ Forged 416 stroker Turbocharged with Huron Speed with Cam Motion custom grind,Tuned by Vengeance, 8psi, 25% PowerBond UDP, Ported TB, shaved heads, LS9 gaskets, chromoly pushrods, BT trunnions & dual valve springs, IWIS, Might Mouse CC, SJM Line Lock,, MSD 2-Step, ZL1 Rear End, ZL1 spoiler, Strut Brace, ARP bolts, Skip shift elim, A-Pillar Gauges, FR Style 41 20X10, 3 inch exhaust, blackouts, Lowered, Custom badges, Hines vents,RPI fender vents, Technostalgia Tail Lights, Metra Kit, Pioneer stereo, Morimoto RGB Halos, "The Great Awakening" on gab.com

02-24-2018, 01:20 PM	#112
760bowtie Drives: 2014 1SS/RS, 2018 Silverado CC Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,487	I had the same issue. Used the puller and came right out __________________ AGP 57/57 turbos and Dual Pump System, NA Cam, McLeod RXT clutch, MGW shifter, ZL1 Rear End, BMR Trailing Arms/Toe Rods, Pegasus Solid Cradle Bushings 10.7 @140mph M6