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sdynak · 01-16-2018, 07:22 PM

Did you do any further work on the head porting or was that from CNC alone?

Good catch on doing this now with that cam.

Bo White · 01-16-2018, 07:52 PM

Going on untouched. Im refraining to even take a peak lol. I originally was going to order as cast and port them myself but dont have the time.

sdynak · 01-16-2018, 08:06 PM

Yeah.. got your hand full for sure.. Looking good.

trw427ss · 01-16-2018, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

TSP has their own grinder. In house cams.

TSP grinds their own cams but they don’t make the Cores!

Bo White · 01-17-2018, 04:40 AM

I wonder who does make their own cores? Crower maybe?

bkevind · 01-17-2018, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

I wonder who does make their own cores? Crower maybe?

Howards does don't they?

Smokin19 · 01-17-2018, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

Its been using Mobil 1 since new. Both of my oil samples have gotten rave reviews from Blackstone.

Not knowing exactly how Blackstone does their analysis, I can't help but wonder why they did not see any breakdown of the cam material in the oil sample.

As for the cam manufacture they need to do a Spectra analysis of the metal used to make their cams if they haven't done so.

Looks like you are doing this rebuild at just the right time.

Punisher_ATX · 01-17-2018, 08:02 AM

TSP cams are ground on a Callies Core. Standard cams are 5150 cores with an optional 8620 Hardened core.

And to answer your question the cam core you are seeing is in fact a classic Comp Cam core having a lobe failure.

frankwjr · 01-17-2018, 08:51 AM

I believe Cam Motion does their own but could not confirm on their web site...anybody?

btw - in the lobe pic Bo posted it is interesting to note the surface failure was just outside of where the lifter ran...he saw no damage on the lifter roller...proving the heat treat was insufficient to stop the metal from compressing slightly...

Bo you state your stickin with the stock intake "fer now"...meaning sumthin better on the horizon...many like Billy go with the Victor...I was lookin at the Holley mid rise single plain...still shows as a 3 to 7k intake...I'm thinkin it might work better for mostly street driven...just spit ballin while drinken my coffee...l8tr

Bo White · 01-17-2018, 09:07 AM

Super Victor

Bo White · 01-17-2018, 09:28 AM

The lobe damage is on the edge of the rollers path. Follows it exactly.

InFiD3ViL · 01-17-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by zz430camaro

I have not seen any other manufacturers have failures like this but Comp. They seem to have some problems with heat treating or flawed cam cores. Does TSP use them also?

What kinda concerns me, don't many of the custom grinds from specialty shops use cores from Comp?

Punisher_ATX · 01-17-2018, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

What kinda concerns me, don't many of the custom grinds from specialty shops use cores from Comp?

Id say about 90% of shops use comp. BTR TICK LJMS GPI etc...

frankwjr · 01-17-2018, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

Super Victor

heh, heh..knew I could tease it outta ya...lol...that makes 3 for 3...I really need to go to Vegas LULZ...

01-16-2018, 07:22 PM	#99
sdynak Drives: 2010 1SS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Bayville, NJ Posts: 936	Did you do any further work on the head porting or was that from CNC alone? Good catch on doing this now with that cam. __________________ 2010 1SS LS3, Black, 235/250, .621/.615, 114 + 4, Kooks Stepped Headers, 3.91's, Bo White PTB, Flowmaster Mufflers, Cold Air Industries CAI, Apex Scoop & Windshield Washer Relocate, SLP Wheels, Skip Shift Eliminate, Barton Flat Stick, OEM HID/Halos, Dyno Tuned by ECS

01-16-2018, 07:52 PM	#100
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,041	Going on untouched. Im refraining to even take a peak lol. I originally was going to order as cast and port them myself but dont have the time. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

01-16-2018, 08:06 PM	#101
sdynak Drives: 2010 1SS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Bayville, NJ Posts: 936	Yeah.. got your hand full for sure.. Looking good. __________________ 2010 1SS LS3, Black, 235/250, .621/.615, 114 + 4, Kooks Stepped Headers, 3.91's, Bo White PTB, Flowmaster Mufflers, Cold Air Industries CAI, Apex Scoop & Windshield Washer Relocate, SLP Wheels, Skip Shift Eliminate, Barton Flat Stick, OEM HID/Halos, Dyno Tuned by ECS

01-17-2018, 04:40 AM	#103
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,041	I wonder who does make their own cores? Crower maybe? __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

01-17-2018, 08:51 AM	#107
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	I believe Cam Motion does their own but could not confirm on their web site...anybody? btw - in the lobe pic Bo posted it is interesting to note the surface failure was just outside of where the lifter ran...he saw no damage on the lifter roller...proving the heat treat was insufficient to stop the metal from compressing slightly... Bo you state your stickin with the stock intake "fer now"...meaning sumthin better on the horizon...many like Billy go with the Victor...I was lookin at the Holley mid rise single plain...still shows as a 3 to 7k intake...I'm thinkin it might work better for mostly street driven...just spit ballin while drinken my coffee...l8tr __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

01-17-2018, 08:02 AM	#106
Punisher_ATX Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Austin Posts: 439	TSP cams are ground on a Callies Core. Standard cams are 5150 cores with an optional 8620 Hardened core. And to answer your question the cam core you are seeing is in fact a classic Comp Cam core having a lobe failure.

01-17-2018, 09:07 AM	#108
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,041	Super Victor __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

01-17-2018, 09:28 AM	#109
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,041	The lobe damage is on the edge of the rollers path. Follows it exactly. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X