HELP $1000 Fraudulant sale

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by irocnroll

Well if you are correct in the fact that this person is Chris and his dad is Craig then: Behold the Power of the Interwebs. Spokeo Information

While I don't think that personally going to the guys house would solve anything (and I'm glad that the OP agrees there) I do also want to point out that you can in no way trust the information that that Spokeo site pulls up. I did a search for my name and came up with 1 result in the USA (its a very uncommon name/spelling), but the address listed was down the street from somewhere I lived two years ago, and the physical description was a late 40's male (I'm a 21 year old male, and even look young for my age). If somebody tried to find ME based on that information, they might end up accosting somebody completely uninvolved, which is wrong even leaving the criminal aspect out of the equation.
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[06 GTO]

Latest post by the piece of shit scammer:

Originally Posted by rjcamaro
Sorry this is bull, I sent him thru PayPal $250 for a 20" wheel. The money xfer from my checking account to his PayPal account. Never had a 20" camaro wheel.

So he has my $250! Nope paypal does..

On top of that I emailed him several times and he never email me back, why? Can't access that email as it got jacked.

And I called and left a voice message with my phone number and he never called me back. Again why? Never tried to sell a wheel so it wasn't me. Never talked to you so why would you have my number?

Sorry this is a scam this guy is a crook period. Sorry you lost your money.
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[Russell James]

I'd bet you guys are dealing with a drug addict. Has all the classic signs, stealing, lying, changing stories, careless and not good at covering his tracks... A prof crook would have zero trail and be in the wind within seconds of the money hitting Paypal/Western Union. A drug addict just keeps coming up with stories.

I'd do a local police report with where you live.
Call the Sherrif of where he lives to do a report there.
File an FBI internet fraud complaint.
Include the father as a co-conspirator as he as knowledge of the crimes.

[fieldgoal00]

http://azdgforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9744

he is on here posting say that we chose to send it personally through paypal, when in fact he sent us a pm stating to do it that way.

We talked to him on the phone, he will not give us his phone number or address and then said " good luck getting your money back" right before he hung up on us.

[Russo]

unbelieveable

710 S Hardy Dr, Tempe, AZ 85281

15648 W Vernon Ave, Goodyear, AZ 85395

either one of those the address?

[Berean]

Originally Posted by Russell James

I'd bet you guys are dealing with a drug addict. Has all the classic signs, stealing, lying, changing stories, careless and not good at covering his tracks...

Bingo. And your money is long gone.

[rjcamaro]

Originally Posted by Russell James

I'd bet you guys are dealing with a drug addict. Has all the classic signs, stealing, lying, changing stories, careless and not good at covering his tracks... A prof crook would have zero trail and be in the wind within seconds of the money hitting Paypal/Western Union. A drug addict just keeps coming up with stories.

I'd do a local police report with where you live.
Call the Sherrif of where he lives to do a report there.
File an FBI internet fraud complaint.
Include the father as a co-conspirator as he as knowledge of the crimes.

Already done.

[fieldgoal00]

Found that fusiondarkstar is his screen name on the ls1tech.com forums.

[Lava]

Hey
You need to file a report with the US Attorney General for Interstate Commerce Fraud. He has commited a crime involving money that has crossed State Lines. The case will be investigated. You have a great deal of incriminating evidence and you know where to find him. Then when he is arrested on Federal Charges I can take care of him for you. Contact Buddy Caldwell's Office here in the State and ask how do you file Federal Charges against an individual for Interstate Commerce Fraud. Good Luck to you my friend. I'd love to know his real name

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by fieldgoal00

Hey guys,
StrykersG8 posted a thread for some ARH 1 7/8" headers in the for sale section the other day and he was only asking $1000 because he needed the money quick. So I pm'd him throughout the day today and after chatting back and forth I sent him money through paypal for $1000.00. The minute I sent the money to him he stop answering my PM's and I am stuck with no money because paypal will not help me because I sent it as a personal fund so he didn't incur the 3% charge on the money.
My wife also got on here on her name after I paid him and she asked him if they were still for sale and he PM'd her back and said yes they were. This threw up a red flag.
I found he was a member on GRRRR8.NET as well so I checked on there and he is selling stuff on there as well. Well I found one person that bought something from him and they said that they did receive it and his reason for selling him the exhaust he got was because he needed money. He concurred that the guys real name is that same guy that I sent money to and that the guy lived in Arizona. That was another red flag because the guy told me he would be shipping them from Seattle,WA.
However, since I've been searching all day, I've been able to find pictures of other items he was selling on GRRRR8.NET with his screen name in the picture with the items he was selling in the same photobucket account that the picture of the headers was in that he sent me. So I've printed out pictures of his photobucket pictures showing his car and license plate, the items he was selling with his screen name in the pictures and also all the threads he has posted showing the same pictures in them. This way I can link both of the screen names (camaro5 and grrrr8.net) together along with the same photobucket account and with the car in the pictures.
I also found a post where he posted his zip code for shipping purposes, so my wife and I now have his address, phone number and everything we need to know to go to the AZ police and file a police report. I am willing to let it drop if he will just send us our money back.
Anyone fellow Camaro5 members in Arizona wanna help find this guy and get our money back?

be careful of ANYTHING emanating out of the philippines!..tough place to live!
"scammers 'r us!"

[2ndgenz28]

I had a problem like this once on a NOS SuperCharger and I sent a letter to his local police to verfyi his address and gave them background on why.

They went to his house and checked, and low and behold I ended up getting my stuff + more.

Which made me feel bad, so I paid more.
But he sent me like everything he had for my car, not just what I bought.

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Originally Posted by fieldgoal00

We did that last week and talked to the father, then the son called us last sunday and sent our money back via a paypal echeck but before it cleared he cancelled the payment through his bank.

Originally Posted by WiccaJew

Tell him to either send the headers then!!?! Why would he "send" the money back, if he never had it. That story sounds so messed up in so many ways..... Not a scam then he should have sent the headers...

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Originally Posted by patrickt

Never heard of disapearing money with paypal. We use the for every transaction we do a day and never have a problem

that's why we use PayPal for the store as well. And we don't ask anyone to send money using that "tab." It's safe...it's just the people you have to look out for.

Originally Posted by rjcamaro

Also if this was ID thief then why would he try to refund $1000 out of his pocket? Someting doesn't smell right.....

EXACTLY.

Originally Posted by 06 GTO

I agree with you guys and I said to kick his ass off the GTO forums bc I don't want any scamming mother f'er on there. But I do have to correct you on one thing. I also thought the same thing as you guys. Why would you give a refund if you never received the money? But I read it again and it actually says.......... "I even tried to refund the money back to her but due to the account being suspended I don't know what paypal did with it. They sent me the money Friday I then refunded it back that saturday morning. I even had my mom next to me to verify this as they got brought into this whole thing. So my parents know everything that is going on. I called Jessica last night to try and tell her what happened and even showed my dad my bank account to verify that there was nothing in there for $1000( I don't live with my parents). Of course she wasn't happy as I wouldn't be either."

So he admitted he got the money,but I still do believe he is a scammer and needs to be punished. He needs to either give the headers or the money back to the buyer.(plus a little bonus for being a douche :P)

So basically everyone agrees here.

Fieldgoal00 and everyone else who got scammed by this guy, you need to print this stuff out right here fast...and go to the board where he posted it and take a screen shot. He's lied twice in that post. One about him never getting the money, but apparently he did. And two, why send back money that you had no control over???

Dude is full of SH!T.

EVERYONE HERE WHO DEALT WITH THIS GUY NEEDS TO CONTACT THEIR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT TO START A CASE.

[caverman]

Originally Posted by 06 GTO

Latest post by the piece of shit scammer:

Originally Posted by rjcamaro
Sorry this is bull, I sent him thru PayPal $250 for a 20" wheel. The money xfer from my checking account to his PayPal account. Never had a 20" camaro wheel.

So he has my $250! Nope paypal does..

On top of that I emailed him several times and he never email me back, why? Can't access that email as it got jacked.

And I called and left a voice message with my phone number and he never called me back. Again why? Never tried to sell a wheel so it wasn't me. Never talked to you so why would you have my number?

Sorry this is a scam this guy is a crook period. Sorry you lost your money.

When he contacted me about a set of polished wheels he said they weren't his but a friend of his. Guess he tried to say that so that he could say he never had 20" Camaro wheels. Well.....that's the truth....he never did have them but he sure tried to sell something he didn't have.

I have all of my emails from this guy where he tried to sell me a set of polished wheels. It was all to sketchy for me to buy but if anyone here needs any more evidence that he tried to sell something he didn't have just PM me and I can forward over the emails.

My guess is he is a drug addict as well so his life is already going to be hell....and he deserves everything he gets.

I hope this dude goes down hard!