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07-07-2011, 01:12 PM | #11818 |
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New left over 2011 GT500's are going for as low as $44-47k.
Sure a 5.0L with a blower on it is going to make more then the stock GT500 but the 5.0L is now stuck at my stock GT500's power level due to its non forged pistons and spent almost 10k to get there. Now for the GT500 the fun has just begin because they can take 22psi of boost all day and it only takes $2,500 supercharger swap that you can do in you driveway in 2 hours and enjoy making 700whp+ and the rest of the drivetrain is stout enough to take vs the questionable GT trans. Last edited by BigDan; 07-07-2011 at 02:21 PM. |
07-07-2011, 01:20 PM | #11819 | |
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Completely agree..
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07-07-2011, 01:21 PM | #11820 | |
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07-07-2011, 02:05 PM | #11822 |
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Did not sound like the stock tranny.
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07-07-2011, 02:12 PM | #11823 |
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If Chevrolet really wanted to hit a home run with the ZL1 they should have gone with the LS9 instead of the LSA.
The hand built made in the USA LS9 makes more sense than the made in Mexico LSA to go against the hand built made in the USA 5.4 GT500 engine. |
07-07-2011, 05:08 PM | #11824 | |
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In road racing higher rpms help. In drag racing not a big factor but torque is very important. In the 60's and 70's big blocks did not rev like the small blocks but they had the torque. Same is true with the LS3 over the 5.0 can not rev as high but it has more torque.
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07-07-2011, 05:33 PM | #11825 | |
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07-07-2011, 06:48 PM | #11826 |
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I must disagree. While you need to consider HP in the power band you want but torque and its curve on the power band is equally or more important. Torque is what launches you off the line and will give you the advantage over a high HP lower torque car. For example two equal cars but one has 3.73 gears the other has 4.11s. who wins? the car with 4.11's because it has more force to rotate the tires, thus torque, and will accelerate quicker.
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07-07-2011, 07:06 PM | #11827 | |
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We're basically arguing the same point, but what's important is the usable rpm range, not the curve before then. If you launch at 4,500rpm and redline at 7,500, the only important power and torque figures for racing are within that range, most importantly whatever your post-shift rpm is in each gear to redline. Whichever car makes more torque at those rpms is also making more horsepower as hp=tq*rpm/5252. The broader the rev range, the more you can take advantage of shorter gearing to shift that powerband and torque multiplication. Last edited by 8cd03gro; 07-07-2011 at 07:38 PM. |
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07-07-2011, 07:40 PM | #11828 | |
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07-07-2011, 08:21 PM | #11829 |
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I have a 2011 Shelby, and a 2011 Camaro SS, both are wonderful rides.
Shelby is fun to drive, and a real monster when you push it. I have the performance package with the 3.73 gears and it's easy to break the rear end loose if you aren't careful. Camaro is also very fast and lots of fun to drive. It's a little easier to control under hard acceleration. In a straight race extra 124hp Shelby makes the difference. They are a great garage pair if you love muscle cars. I looked at the 392 Hemi several times, and always wanted a Hemi......but the Dodge names is tough to overcome! |
07-07-2011, 09:16 PM | #11830 |
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That is very misleading. You got to remember it's a performance company trying to sell a product. That car is far from stock. They probably mean it has a stock bottom end ,but three passes don't mean it's reliable.
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