IPF Camaro V6 vs Procharger Mustang V6 (Soon)

[MagnumForceGB]

Found out that the safe injection module can output a analog signal that HP Tuners can use, it is 0.1 voltage per ml/min. Now I have a way to see if my meth pump is spraying the correct amount of 1400.

Also got this oil cap which added 50 HP, going to be in the 9's now.

[MagnumForceGB]

Got the nozzle and fuel solenoid indtalled. Got the lines bent in a way to prevent interference with other stuff.

Going to use my old stage 2 meth control for the fuel solenoid, it draws 4 amps and don't want to draw too much through my new controller. Still have to do wiring, too cold to work in the garage right now. Starting with a 0.18 orifice at first.

[bandido]

nice

[MagnumForceGB]

Took advantage of BMR's sale and picked up motor mounts for a Camaro and Mustang. Lowering the engine will give me a little more room if I want to add a spacer plate under the manifold for port injection.

Also might look at finding a bigger throttle body that can fit the LFX manifold. I know they say the LF3 throttle body is smaller but Turbo's will spin until the boost goal is met, my supercharger won't. I didn't pick up as much boost as I should have so there might be a bottle neck in the throttle body now.

[Jason@JacFab]

Contact Will @ Overkill (in Canada), he's been working on an 80mm tb kit for the LFX. You will have to open up the front of the intake at the inlet as you can see here from the picture with the adapter bolted to the intake

http://www.getoverkilled.ca/lfxcamaro.html

Your biggest hurdle I think would be wiring. As the LLT has a different TB connector than LFX/LF3 and this 80mm unit. The LF3 TB harness extension MAY almost be plug and play for you, might have to swap some wires around or cut one end off. I'll dig it out later today and post pictures of it.

Then you gotta hope everything plays nice with the Bosch computer...




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[MagnumForceGB]

Thanks, sent him an email. Do you know the pin outs and voltage requirements of the LFX throttle? I know the LLT has a 5 pin straight to 5 pin cluster adapter right at the throttle body, I can repin the connector if I have the right plug.

I would still need to look at the 2.5" reduction on the cold side pipe, but it is not going into a wide open space like the manifold so it won't be too big of a deal. Need that BMR K-Member, getting rid of the wide steel stamps would free up pipe space.

[Jason@JacFab]

See attached for harness side TB connector pinout. There is a connector p/n and description... Not sure how much a pigtail or pig tail by itself will run you, but the LF3 TB extension harness has the right connector on one end and is $24 bucks, p/n 12640409... I can't seem to find my LF3 tb or harness at the moment, but I'm working on cleaning up so I imagine it will pop up in the next few days as I shuffle things around.

[MagnumForceGB]

Thanks, will compare it to the LLT tonight.

BMR said they haven't tested their motors mounts with a V6 yet, so I will see if it works. I know if it doesn't though they will fix it, great company.

[MagnumForceGB]

Got an email back from overkill, they have a 76mm direct fit throttle body for the LLT from the GT V6 LY7.

http://www.getoverkilled.ca/g8v6.html

[Jason@JacFab]

Originally Posted by MagnumForceGB

Got an email back from overkill, they have a 76mm direct fit throttle body for the LLT from the GT V6 LY7.

http://www.getoverkilled.ca/g8v6.html

I don't recall what the LLT tb size is? LFX is 72mm... But I know that the LLT tb is better (in terms of contour, and flow, not necessarily size) than the LFX tb, not sure if they are the same size... I searched for parts to make a harness to put the LLT TB onto the LFX engine for quite a while, but no one makes a male LFX tb connector to complete the harness, so I dropped the project.

[MagnumForceGB]

Originally Posted by Jason@JacFab

I don't recall what the LLT tb size is? LFX is 72mm... But I know that the LLT tb is better (in terms of contour, and flow, not necessarily size) than the LFX tb, not sure if they are the same size... I searched for parts to make a harness to put the LLT TB onto the LFX engine for quite a while, but no one makes a male LFX tb connector to complete the harness, so I dropped the project.

I'll check it tonight with my caliper.

He also sent me a link to a LLT MAF housing, guy is very helpful.

[MagnumForceGB]

Just measured it, 72mm. A 76mm will be around 5.5% increase, 80mm will be a 10% increase.

[Jason@JacFab]

Originally Posted by MagnumForceGB

Just measured it, 72mm. A 76mm will be around 5.5% increase, 80mm will be a 10% increase.

Gotcha. I have an LLT TB, but didn't have it handy to measure earlier. 76mm may be worth trying? Easy bolt on, no wiring hassle. See what it does? Or go for broke and get the 80mm and hope the wiring works out.

As for the MAF housing Overkill has, can you even use that being I think your MAF housing is built into the IPF kit? Or would you really have to hack some stuff up to get it to work? The good thing is that I know that you can tune it if you can make it work.

[MagnumForceGB]

Originally Posted by Jason@JacFab

Gotcha. I have an LLT TB, but didn't have it handy to measure earlier. 76mm may be worth trying? Easy bolt on, no wiring hassle. See what it does? Or go for broke and get the 80mm and hope the wiring works out.

As for the MAF housing Overkill has, can you even use that being I think your MAF housing is built into the IPF kit? Or would you really have to hack some stuff up to get it to work? The good thing is that I know that you can tune it if you can make it work.

I'm using a blow-thru setup now, I had to JB Weld the MAF housing from the stock intake onto a tube to get it to work. They have a 3, 3.25, 3.5, and 4 inch MAF tubing for the LLT MAF.

Also the wiring for the LLT Throttle Body:
Pin 1: Brown - TAC Control 2
Pin 2: Yellow - TAC Control 1
Pin 3: Tan - Low Reference
Pin 4: Dark Green - TPS Sensor 1
Pin 5: Grey - 5 Voltage Reference
Pin 6: Purple - TPS Sensor 2

Pin 6 looks like the one that will be the problem, the LLT has a redundant sensor. Don't know if just duplicating that would fool the ECU, might make it mad.