01-12-2016, 09:08 PM | #1219 |
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5% Commanded ETC:
Stock TB: Sensor 1 - 4.12 / Sensor 2 - 0.84 Bigger TB: Sensor 1 - 4.27 / Sensor 2 - 0.73 99% Commanded ETC: Stock TB: Sensor 1 - 0.86 / Sensor 2 - 4.12 Bigger TB: Sensor 1 - 0.86 / Sensor 2 - 4.10 Rest Position Voltages: Stock TB: Sensor 1 - 3.35 / Sensor 2 - 1.63 Bigger TB: Sensor 1 - 4.12 / Sensor 2 - 0.86 Looks like the Rest position is the really bad one, which if I remember right is actually where the spring will place it at with no voltages applied. The 5% might be outside the parameters also, will have to see later. Last edited by MagnumForceGB; 01-12-2016 at 10:27 PM. |
01-14-2016, 09:43 AM | #1220 |
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Got everything together, went to move some stuff for storage and dropped a stock throttle body bolts in the hood latch area. Can't find it so now I have to take the front bumper off to find it, I'm not having any luck in this cold weather working.
Got my BMR Engine mounts though, after I test this throttle body I will install them. My goal is to get the front end lifted off the ground by 2 feet and the frame twisted on launch. |
01-14-2016, 10:51 AM | #1221 |
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Floor jack and photoshop will do wonders
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01-14-2016, 06:18 PM | #1222 |
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Nah, I can't photoshop and I've seen what happens when people ask for help photoshopping something. Don't even want to imagine what it would look like.
Got the car put back completely together, about to start it up and take it for a quick spin around the block to make sure the drivability is still there. Also, this is my new coolant expansion reservoir that replaces the huge stock one. With it out of the way I can now run a 3" pipe all the way to the throttle body, but it will be expanded out to a 3.5" at the MAF now with this throttle body. Stock IPF setup is 2.5" all the way, so this should be a nice improvement. |
01-14-2016, 06:34 PM | #1223 |
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can't wait to hear how it drives |
01-14-2016, 08:38 PM | #1224 |
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Good news, no more codes for circuit high or low, my battery might have been too low for that. The Rest code is still there though, talking to Will about that. When I first started the car the idle high over 1700, my throttle calibration is off but I added 10% to the air flow table, will put it back to stock to see how it works.
I took it for a drive on the highway.... Exhaust note is definitely deeper. Now from the last time I took the car out, my boost pressure is 1-2 PSI higher and the MAF sensor was 2,000 HZ higher. I only got up to 4900 RPM's though. Going to work on drivability issues first. |
01-14-2016, 08:54 PM | #1225 |
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You just changed the SC pulley didn't you? Hence the higher boost yeah?
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01-14-2016, 09:59 PM | #1226 |
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2 months ago, this is from just the throttle body using a 3" to 3.5" silicone reducer coupler. Last log I had was with the new pulley, car was running lean so I added the fuel nitrous nozzle.
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01-15-2016, 01:09 PM | #1227 |
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This throttle body is definitely NOT plug and play, I put the stock values in the tables and the engine immediately revved up to 4000 before I turned it off. Added 10% and it revved to 1800 but eventually went to 800 after it learned somewhat. It is throwing the code that Idle is not learned. I'm going to modify the throttle body tables more to try to make it drivable. Right now you barely touch the throttle and the car jumps.
I'm not getting circuit errors so the signals work, but it is just moving so much more air that the ECU needs a lot of tuning to get it right. |
01-15-2016, 02:00 PM | #1228 |
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Does the throttle calibration work with the tbody
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01-15-2016, 02:31 PM | #1229 |
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I wonder how the "plug and play" 76.5mm unit he offered first would have worked...
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01-15-2016, 02:43 PM | #1230 |
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Yes, there is a table that says how much air the ECU should expect at a certain throttle angle on the LLT. The 80mm is actually 20% bigger while the 76mm would be 10% bigger.
The computer probably could adjust to it. My tune has a lot of parts changed to get the idle to be smooth and not overheat the engine. I know in the 5.0 world the stock throttle body is 80mm, you can safely do 85mm with no tune. At 90mm a tune is required since the airflow is way off. The LLT might be the same way. |
01-15-2016, 02:53 PM | #1231 |
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Decided to go to the car right fast and do a 20% increase above 3% in the throttle body, started up perfectly. My MAF is getting a lot of turbulence though so the new tube I have for it should help. Will see if drivability is improved now.
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01-15-2016, 06:02 PM | #1232 |
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Started it up after idling the first time, RPM's went straight up again. Increased the throttle body airflow by 5% and it didn't do it again.
The 7th fuel injector thing did not work, my main fuel rail pressure went straight down when it was activated. So will be taking that out it looks like and seeing what else I can do. |
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