Z28 or ZL1???

[Kevlar382]

Originally Posted by zl1bro

+1 Been thinking this same thing for awhile now. The LS9 would have made the ZL1 more competitive with the GT500 and would have distinguished it further from the new Z28. I assumed the LS9 engine was too expensive and would have made the ZL1 cost too much so they went with the Caddy engine. Upgrading the ZL1 with CAI, 19" wheels/tires from the new Z28 will shave at least a second or two off its lap time i'd bet..

LS9, Z/28 brakes, tires and wheels = 2015 ZL1. Gen 5 goes out with a bang.

[zl1bro]

Originally Posted by Kevlar382

LS9, Z/28 brakes, tires and wheels = 2015 ZL1. Gen 5 goes out with a bang.

Wow!

[Al C.]

Originally Posted by Kevlar382

LS9, Z/28 brakes, tires and wheels = 2015 ZL1. Gen 5 goes out with a bang.

If that happens id price the ZL1 in between Z06 and ZR1. 80-85K.. id rather buy a COPO

[Lethal Z]

Originally Posted by I call it Vera

I'm happy with my car over the Z28. Here's why:

1. I have a convertible
2. I like the extra technology and amenities on my car
3. Those tires on the Z28 look great, but they also look more expensive, more difficult in cold weather, and more fragile on the street. I think the ZL1 tires are bad enough as it is (being summer only, etc . . . )
4. ZL1 Hood >>>> Z28 hood
5. I'm not really going to track my car. (would have gotten a coupe . . . )

I had a 1989 Z28 when I was in college. Frankly, the new Z28 is not a 'college car'. it's clearly a step up from my old car, but the badging is the same. It's clear to me that the ZL1 is a step up, so I feel a little more successful having the ZL1. (yeah, yeah, weird)

I was slightly annoyed that the Z28 is faster . . . but I'm over that now. Frankly, I'm not that good of a driver anyway.

If only GM would take the 427, add a super charger and make THAT the 2014 ZL1 . . .

Cylinder walls are way to thin on the LS7 for a reliable blower.

As a matter of fact, you take a Vortech V1 supercharger and bolt it to a LS3 and an LS7...and your gonna get more safe HP out of the LS3.

The LS3 can take 12-15 lbs of boost. The LS7s on the other hand max out at 6 psi.

[I call it Vera]

Originally Posted by Lethal Z

Cylinder walls are way to thin on the LS7 for a reliable blower.

As a matter of fact, you take a Vortech V1 supercharger and bolt it to a LS3 and an LS7...and your gonna get more safe HP out of the LS3.

The LS3 can take 12-15 lbs of boost. The LS7s on the other hand max out at 6 psi.

I continue to learn a lot on these forums. Thank! (seriously).

I didn't know that.

[2012 ZL1#1658]

I want those brakes for my ZL1. Maybe when I need a new set.

[Taser Deployed]

Is it just me or does anyone else think it's kind of screwed up that the car that a good majority of camaro owners asked for will possibly be out of the price range of the vast majority of owners. I love the car don't get me wrong but damn if it's more than a ZL1 which is already out of reach of a good majority of owners then how can we enjoy the almight Z28 other than seeing pics and someone else driving it? Also the fact that it's a track car (no creature comforts) is jacked up as well. I'm all about tradition but the most popular camaro brand will be the least affordable and practical and somehow that just seems wrong.

[Kevlar382]

Originally Posted by Al C.

If that happens id price the ZL1 in between Z06 and ZR1. 80-85K.. id rather buy a COPO

And walk to work? Hopefully your driveway doesn't have any turns in it.

[All-American ZL1]

I don't know about you guys but when I'm on a track I usually prefer to have a roll cage, harness, HANS, safety equipment etc. Neither of these cars offer that.

I think the z28 would look pretty cool if it had the ZL1 hood insert, I agree the one it has looks a little weak, but the rest of the changes look pretty cool.

With either car people are going to change them to fit their own needs, I bet a lot of people will get radio and A/C in their z28. I bet a lot of Zl1 drivers will change their brakes and tire packages. At the end of the day they will be very close in performance after mods.

The trick is to enjoy what you have and quit comparing your you know whats. Us ZL1 drivers have been guilty of doing that to the SS owners for a while now.

[awh3r]

With the front fascia staying the same on the 2014 ZL1, will the hood configuration stay the same?

[I call it Vera]

Originally Posted by KKreme15

The thing that is going to keep me warm at night is knowing they don't make IOM anymore, and I'm one of the few 2012 manual trans IOMs

I see it as an option for 2013. Is it discontinued for 2014?

BTW, it's an awesome color. My dealer has had 2 on the show room floor, and they both look amazing.

[awh3r]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Sorry.

CAFE standards alone will be making V8 performance more expensive as we move forward............that guess is simply not realistic. That said, we have not priced the Z/28 yet and it will be some time before we do so.....


Meanwhile - we will continue to build the ZL1 for 2014...... One note: the 2014 ZL1 retains the front styling of the '12/'13 car.

The ZL1 is a car you can live with each day.....the Z/28 is a track car -- it's not nearly as liveable. Two different Camaros for two different purposes.

With the front fascia staying the same on the 2014 ZL1, will the hood configuration stay the same?

[I call it Vera]

Originally Posted by All-American ZL1

I don't know about you guys but when I'm on a track I usually prefer to have a roll cage, harness, HANS, safety equipment etc. Neither of these cars offer that.

I think the z28 would look pretty cool if it had the ZL1 hood insert, I agree the one it has looks a little weak, but the rest of the changes look pretty cool.

With either car people are going to change them to fit their own needs, I bet a lot of people will get radio and A/C in their z28. I bet a lot of Zl1 drivers will change their brakes and tire packages. At the end of the day they will be very close in performance after mods.

The trick is to enjoy what you have and quit comparing your you know whats. Us ZL1 drivers have been guilty of doing that to the SS owners for a while now.

No idea what you are talking about. (front facia and hood should be under restriction . . .)

[mechanic1]

Originally Posted by Whos_Drivin

I wonder how much weight you could cut from the ZL1 if you removed all the stereo equipment, A/C, junk in the trunk, lighter seats, etc. Then throw on a set of the Z/28 tires. It's not a stock vs stock, but would be interesting to see the comparison. I for one will be keeping all of the above.

Oh yeah, she's comin.........trunk junk, smaller battery, seats........I may rip out the back seat and put a black cloth liner in place............I have a good friend who works at the seat plant in supervision........I'm going to see what he can do for me.....those seats are awesome.........if i was real bored I'd strip the interior and lose the deadener..........put this fat bastard on a diet.....yeeha