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Old 08-09-2009, 10:24 PM   #113
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my gas mileage has sucked balls...no way the estimated is correct...i have 7500 miles on it....i have never seen a avg. over 23.5...i drive mostly highway...but ive had averages on a full tank as low as 19 mpg, and thats with about 60% highway! sucks!!
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:59 PM   #114
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Stop complaining.
Then they shouldn't have advertised it as getting 29 mpg highway. If I wanted to get 16 mpg then I would get the SS. The mileage is one of the biggest reasons people choose the V6. I can't be satisfied with a car that doesn't do what it is supposed to.
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Old 08-10-2009, 12:58 AM   #115
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Then they shouldn't have advertised it as getting 29 mpg highway. If I wanted to get 16 mpg then I would get the SS. The mileage is one of the biggest reasons people choose the V6. I can't be satisfied with a car that doesn't do what it is supposed to.
I doubt people bought the v6 camaro for "gas mileage." Most who got the 6 I'm betting just love camaros and couldn't afford the 8 at the moment, so the 6 was the next best thing. And oh yea, it is rated pretty good on mpg... but mainly for the styling and image.

maybe you are getting 29mpg. That is completely different than 29mpg/tank though. If half the tank is 29mpgs and the rest you were racing or just driving around town, then the mpg/tank will be lower overall. If it is all highway cruising steady and 29mpgs and the whole tank was used this way, the mpg/tank will be pretty damn high! It is possible to get higher than what the sticker states. I've done it. Its not so much fun doing it that way though

I can still have fun and get 21mpgs/tank
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:21 AM   #116
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Then they shouldn't have advertised it as getting 29 mpg highway. If I wanted to get 16 mpg then I would get the SS. The mileage is one of the biggest reasons people choose the V6. I can't be satisfied with a car that doesn't do what it is supposed to.
EPA ratings are NOT predictions of what you'll get; they're standardized comparisons. If you didn't get the EPA numbers from your last V6 sports car, you won't get it from the Camaro either. It's for comparing to other cars, not for predicting your actual results.

Driving style and traffic are probably the largest contributors to each person's different MPG results. You can change your driving style but probably don't want to (then instead of saying you bought the Camaro for fuel economy, you'd say you bought it for that driving style); and you probably can't change your traffic.

The EPA test is more realistic than it used to be and most people can get those results if they want to (without holding up traffic), but it still requires you to vaguely care about fuel economy while you drive.
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:41 AM   #117
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I think you would be surprised how many of the V6 crowd did get it for gas mileage. I certainly was one of them. Almost went 1SS ,but the gas tipped the scales since my other car is a V8.

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I doubt people bought the v6 camaro for "gas mileage." Most who got the 6 I'm betting just love camaros and couldn't afford the 8 at the moment, so the 6 was the next best thing. And oh yea, it is rated pretty good on mpg... but mainly for the styling and image.

maybe you are getting 29mpg. That is completely different than 29mpg/tank though. If half the tank is 29mpgs and the rest you were racing or just driving around town, then the mpg/tank will be lower overall. If it is all highway cruising steady and 29mpgs and the whole tank was used this way, the mpg/tank will be pretty damn high! It is possible to get higher than what the sticker states. I've done it. Its not so much fun doing it that way though

I can still have fun and get 21mpgs/tank
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:53 AM   #118
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Two fill ups to date....averaging under 14 mpg on both...I literally looked under the hood to see if somehow, someway they slipped a V8 in there - but alas, no - it was the V6.

For all of the comments above, if anything the new EPA ratings are conservative. If it says 18 city, you should get at least 18/29 (or at least close to it) unless you are squealing your tires at every start. I filled it up yesterday, reset the computer and then jumped on the highway for about 60 miles and only got 20 mpg! Something doesn't seem right.

I only have 700 miles so far, but I'm giving it one more tank and if it doesn't improve it's going to the dealer...maybe its a set up issue.
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:54 AM   #119
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21.0 mpg 70% city / 30% highway - Automatic - using 89 Octane this at 1298 miles on my Camaro.

It was 24.3 not too long ago but I can't control my urge lately to gun it a little.
Please know that unless you had your car tuned for 89 Octane fuel, which you didn't because the programming is not available, you are wasting your money running anything other than 87 in the V6.

Your money though...
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:03 AM   #120
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I think you would be surprised how many of the V6 crowd did get it for gas mileage. I certainly was one of them. Almost went 1SS ,but the gas tipped the scales since my other car is a V8.
+1 on the gas mileage being on my list. Which also includes:

Initial cost of @ $7000 more w/ sales tax figured in (equally equipped, NOT fully-loaded 2LT vs base 1SS )

Cost of ownership: Premium gas and insurance.

Also have a 2000 Tahoe that guzzles at the rate of 14-15 MPG that I am keeping when the Camaro arrives.

I was definitely more concerned about the long term cost of the V8, and I wanted to be able to afford both cars.
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I think you would be surprised how many of the V6 crowd did get it for gas mileage. I certainly was one of them. Almost went 1SS ,but the gas tipped the scales since my other car is a V8.
People who are seriously concerned about fuel economy should make some basic efforts to not sabotage the EPA estimates. Excessive idling, gassing all the way up to the red light instead of coasting up to it, shifting at high RPM*, those are wasteful and don't get you anywhere faster or add any excitement to your driving.

*:if manually shifting, of course; instead, enjoy the torque and shift as low as provides decent acceleration. My VW, with far less torque per pound than the V6 Camaro (Camaro 14 lbs per ft-lb, Rabbit 17.6 pounds per ft-lb), beats the other traffic on the road shifting at 1500RPM and beats the EPA estimates too.
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Old 08-10-2009, 11:22 AM   #122
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How do you guys estimate the gas mileage that you are getting, not by looking at the speedometer I hope ? The only way I know to almost truly measure gas mileage is the fill-up, drive and fill-up method: 1. get out and fill the car yourself till the pump cuts off.
2. Reset trip-meter to zero, Drive 30 to 35 miles and stop at the next gas station. 3. repeat step#1 get back in the car and read the trip-meter. Divide miles driven by amount of gas put back in to fill when the pump cuts off.
EXAMPLE: 32.5 miles (trip-meter) / 1.2 gallons put back in is 32.5 / 1.2 = 27.08 MPG......
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A 35 mile drive is nowhere near enough to get an accurate reading, especially if you're pumping at different gas stations. Get gas in the same place each time, and measure it after a whole tank. Then do the same math: miles since last fillup / gallons filled this time = MPG.
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Old 08-10-2009, 02:31 PM   #124
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How do you guys estimate the gas mileage that you are getting, not by looking at the speedometer I hope ? The only way I know to almost truly measure gas mileage is the fill-up, drive and fill-up method: 1. get out and fill the car yourself till the pump cuts off.
2. Reset trip-meter to zero, Drive 30 to 35 miles and stop at the next gas station. 3. repeat step#1 get back in the car and read the trip-meter. Divide miles driven by amount of gas put back in to fill when the pump cuts off.
EXAMPLE: 32.5 miles (trip-meter) / 1.2 gallons put back in is 32.5 / 1.2 = 27.08 MPG......
Twist the left stick until the DIC displays your miles per gallon. Reset it if you want the same way you reset the trip meter.
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EPA ratings are NOT predictions of what you'll get; they're standardized comparisons. If you didn't get the EPA numbers from your last V6 sports car, you won't get it from the Camaro either. It's for comparing to other cars, not for predicting your actual results.

Driving style and traffic are probably the largest contributors to each person's different MPG results. You can change your driving style but probably don't want to (then instead of saying you bought the Camaro for fuel economy, you'd say you bought it for that driving style); and you probably can't change your traffic.

The EPA test is more realistic than it used to be and most people can get those results if they want to (without holding up traffic), but it still requires you to vaguely care about fuel economy while you drive.
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I think you would be surprised how many of the V6 crowd did get it for gas mileage. I certainly was one of them. Almost went 1SS ,but the gas tipped the scales since my other car is a V8.
Funny thing is I had a 2000 V6 Camaro (auto) for 4 years and I get MUCH better gas mileage and (fun) out of my '02 SS (M6)!!! I think my 6 was rated at 19C/31H! My ls1 is 19/28! I get WAY better mpgs out of my SS! I say the epa ratings are way off! In my case it is a FACT!
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Two fill ups to date....averaging under 14 mpg on both...I literally looked under the hood to see if somehow, someway they slipped a V8 in there - but alas, no - it was the V6.

For all of the comments above, if anything the new EPA ratings are conservative. If it says 18 city, you should get at least 18/29 (or at least close to it) unless you are squealing your tires at every start. I filled it up yesterday, reset the computer and then jumped on the highway for about 60 miles and only got 20 mpg! Something doesn't seem right.

I only have 700 miles so far, but I'm giving it one more tank and if it doesn't improve it's going to the dealer...maybe its a set up issue.
Your car is far from being broken in, so give it some time.
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Please know that unless you had your car tuned for 89 Octane fuel, which you didn't because the programming is not available, you are wasting your money running anything other than 87 in the V6.

Your money though...
and if anything, it hurts your performance.
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+1 on the gas mileage being on my list. Which also includes:

Initial cost of @ $7000 more w/ sales tax figured in (equally equipped, NOT fully-loaded 2LT vs base 1SS )

Cost of ownership: Premium gas and insurance.

Also have a 2000 Tahoe that guzzles at the rate of 14-15 MPG that I am keeping when the Camaro arrives.

I was definitely more concerned about the long term cost of the V8, and I wanted to be able to afford both cars.
Look above at my comparison of my old 6 vs my 8.
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People who are seriously concerned about fuel economy should make some basic efforts to not sabotage the EPA estimates. Excessive idling, gassing all the way up to the red light instead of coasting up to it, shifting at high RPM*, those are wasteful and don't get you anywhere faster or add any excitement to your driving.

*:if manually shifting, of course; instead, enjoy the torque and shift as low as provides decent acceleration. My VW, with far less torque per pound than the V6 Camaro (Camaro 14 lbs per ft-lb, Rabbit 17.6 pounds per ft-lb), beats the other traffic on the road shifting at 1500RPM and beats the EPA estimates too.
I don't know about that part
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How do you guys estimate the gas mileage that you are getting, not by looking at the speedometer I hope ? The only way I know to almost truly measure gas mileage is the fill-up, drive and fill-up method: 1. get out and fill the car yourself till the pump cuts off.
2. Reset trip-meter to zero, Drive 30 to 35 miles and stop at the next gas station. 3. repeat step#1 get back in the car and read the trip-meter. Divide miles driven by amount of gas put back in to fill when the pump cuts off.
EXAMPLE: 32.5 miles (trip-meter) / 1.2 gallons put back in is 32.5 / 1.2 = 27.08 MPG......
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A 35 mile drive is nowhere near enough to get an accurate reading, especially if you're pumping at different gas stations. Get gas in the same place each time, and measure it after a whole tank. Then do the same math: miles since last fillup / gallons filled this time = MPG.
the 35 mile part will tell you your mpgs of one gal at best, unless you're going for a low lol. As long as the position of the car(hopefully perfectly flat) is the same during each fillup or the same, no matter where you go, then the station does not matter. It is unnecessary to come back to the same exact spot. A fill up is a fill up.
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Not really. Every pump will shut off at a slightly different point. If you're not going back to the exact same handle on the same pump at the same station, pointing the same direction, it will be slightly off. That's where driving a much longer distance will help average out the differences inherent in the mechanical shut-offs in the pump handles (and a host of other factors). Do a tank-by-tank check.

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