Got the IPF tune today!

[wyd_trkr]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Okay, let's not start another fight okay guys?

GretchenGotGrowl, No Fights here, just being Honest and Stating Facts! What I have posted are nothing but the true facts and nothing more! I for one do not believe in "Snake Oil" and will help prevent others from getting taken advantage of! Nuff Said!

[GearHeadPeter]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Just hit up user "ASH@IPF-TUNING" on this site. This is Arno. He has always been very helpful to me when talking with him.

Thanks I will do that.

[Nutbutt]

That's a little different then myself and others I know that bought either just the IPF tune or the tune with their sc kit.
I was told that yes the first file is a canned tune with my area taken in to account. But that Arno would tweak either on the dyno and afterward by obd2 data and this is exactly what happened. I went thought 4 different tweaks on original dyno an have since had a couple tweaks by Arno after the car has had some learning time.
Did you contact them on the tune ? Any updates tried ?

Originally Posted by wyd_trkr

GretchenGotGrowl, No Fights here, just being Honest and Stating Facts! What I have posted are nothing but the true facts and nothing more! I for one do not believe in "Snake Oil" and will help prevent others from getting taken advantage of! Nuff Said!

[lscamaro]

Originally Posted by wyd_trkr

KMPrenger, sorry if you do not understand where I am coming from, as you, nor anyone else is going to convince me that a one off the shelf tune from any other state is going to perform in your car or anyone else's, only unless the car being tuned is on a Dyno for the correct adjustments!

Talk to SCT (Superchips) or Diablosport Tuners and they will tell you that all of their tuners are tuned, as per previous dyno tunes in their areas of customers all across the country, based upon Altitude, Ambient Conditions, Modifications and Octane Fuel used! IPF certainly does not do this on a one off shelf type tune, unless the "Tuner Tech" is performing the tune on a DYNO and making corrections as he goes!

Hope this helps, as to much "Snake Oil" is being spread across the Internet and the Auto Enthusiast Forums by people posting what is Fiction, NOT Fact! Nothing is better than a True "DYNO" Tune! Sorry, I know, as I have already tried the IPF Tune in my car and like mentioned previously, the cars performance fell off and so did the fuel mileage!

Had the tune removed and the car runs faster than ever, plus I got my fuel mileage back. Nuff Said for the One Off "IPF" Shelf Tune they sent to my car from their Online Database in Arizona, NOT Germany!

We understand what you're saying that a pure dyno tune is the best but the 2010-2011 v6s don't have that luxury. Both the tunes we have available, both trifecta and IPF, are hybrid style tunes. They are both canned tunes that are independently adjusted for each vehicle based off datalogs. Both IPF and Trifecta will also adjust on a dyno which is really the best we can do with these since no hp tuners or efi live support is available.

Also, your claim that no canned tune will ever be as good as a dyno tune isn't completely valid. If it is, please explain to me how Janetty is able to dial in about 99% of the tunes they put out for the v8s in the first try? Even cars who have gone to get a dyno tune done after having a Janetty tune have come back to report that they didn't get a dyno tune because the dyno tuner said the tune was spot on already.

[wyd_trkr]

Originally Posted by lscamaro

We understand what you're saying that a pure dyno tune is the best but the 2010-2011 v6s don't have that luxury. Both the tunes we have available, both trifecta and IPF, are hybrid style tunes. They are both canned tunes that are independently adjusted for each vehicle based off datalogs. Both IPF and Trifecta will also adjust on a dyno which is really the best we can do with these since no hp tuners or efi live support is available.

Also, your claim that no canned tune will ever be as good as a dyno tune isn't completely valid. If it is, please explain to me how Janetty is able to dial in about 99% of the tunes they put out for the v8s in the first try? Even cars who have gone to get a dyno tune done after having a Janetty tune have come back to report that they didn't get a dyno tune because the dyno tuner said the tune was spot on already.

As

previously mentioned before, without my going all the way back on my previous experience, the "Tuner Tech" should be performing and installing the tune on a DYNO and making corrections as he goes is the only way to go! Everything else is totally irrelevant!

[wyd_trkr]

Originally Posted by Nutbutt

That's a little different then myself and others I know that bought either just the IPF tune or the tune with their sc kit.
I was told that yes the first file is a canned tune with my area taken in to account. But that Arno would tweak either on the dyno and afterward by obd2 data and this is exactly what happened. I went thought 4 different tweaks on original dyno an have since had a couple tweaks by Arno after the car has had some learning time.
Did you contact them on the tune ? Any updates tried ?

If you r-read my entire posting on this subject, I was one, not offered the option to have a trained tech to go to any Dyno with me and make sure the tune was dialed in on my car, like you and others have obviously had done!

My experience will not be duplicated, as any company that does not take the time to make sure that customer is totally satisfied, regardless as to the tune being a trial type tune and it is paid for, proper care should be applied in securing that tune is the right one for your vehicle and yes, once installed, it will need some tweaking for maximum performance!

Again, this was not offered to me at the time mine was installed, before and even after the Dyno session I paid for, but a followup of this tune was not an option at the time, but simply ignored and it was my decision was to not have anymore to do with this company, simple as that!

Have I since found any other tunes available for my 2012 LFX Camaro? That answer is simply a No! If I want an additional 5 to 6 more horsepower, then I will step up and use 93 octane in my car, as these IPF Tunes that they advertise "Do Not Offer" a 10% Increase in Horsepower at all, because they cannot guarantee their Claims of exactly that! You will not see a 32 Horsepower Increase with these canned tunes on a Stock LFX Engine, Sorry!

[lscamaro]

Oh wow, just realized you have an LFX. You realize this is the LLT section right? How can you not have found another tune for the LFX? HP Tuners and EFI Live both support the LFX so you can go to any tuner that has either of those programs and have him tune it?

[Toasty]

Originally Posted by wyd_trkr

As

previously mentioned before, without my going all the way back on my previous experience, the "Tuner Tech" should be performing and installing the tune on a DYNO and making corrections as he goes is the only way to go! Everything else is totally irrelevant!

That's fine, and that's your opinion. Just don't go telling people that IPF or Trifecta has a crap product because of it. I think we all saw your original thread and issue, and feel disappointed that it did not work for YOU. That does not mean that it is sake oil or a sham or a lie. IPF would not be in business in this many countries for this long if they were.

...not to mention that the dyno tune you speak of is really not applicable/available to the 10/11 LLT owners. Data log and dyno log is what we've got.

[CodyBanks]

Originally Posted by spyder

I dont mean to hijack the thread her but all the major FI vendors and shops are down south or in the west. I really wish we had some here in the NYC area. There might be some but of course they are not active on this forum.

Yea is there any tune company's in NYC where I can get either IPF or Trifecta ?

[lscamaro]

Don't know about IPF but if you go the trifecta webpage, they have a list of dealers by state. Might try looking there?

[rtcat600man]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Its common knowledge that the Camaro runs rich period. My car had sooty tips stock, and now has sooty tips with a Trifecta tune.

Also, not all IPF tunes are programmed in Arizona...that is just plain false. When Arno (one of the IPF tuners) came here from overseas, his testing was done in arizona, but when you get an IPF tune they take your sea level into account. Again, tunes are not based out of Arizona, not that it matters. Since then Arno has tested and created tunes for cars here from other continents.

Here is an interesting one for you guys and gals to think about for a while. I too have experienced the sooty tips for almost 3 years. I know they run rich, they like it rich. However, for the past week I have been running my new updated tune from Vince at Trifecta. (I did some data logging a couple weeks back while at the track.) This new tune was loaded last week Saturday, I have not seen the sooty tips since the new tune has been loaded. Now I have asked what Vince did with this new tune and found his answer interesting. I have not had a chance to data log again to check on those results, but plan to do so soon.

[Nutbutt]

What was Vince's answer

[KMPrenger]

I'm not going to argue with you wyd_tkrk. I don't understand why you keep bringing true dyno tunes into these "talks". I am not comparing Trifecta and IPF "email" order tunes to something done on the dyno.

As for gains with the IPF tune, I can produce for you three dyno sheets showing great gains for an LLT with an IPF tune. I'd love to see your take on those.

As for you and your LFX, you have more options and availability for a true dyno tune than we have with the LLT, so I don't see why you won't go and get one done?

Sorry. I won't stand by and watch you spout false information b/c of an agenda you have against IPF. If you have any issues with me, feel free to shoot a PM my way.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by rtcat600man

Here is an interesting one for you guys and gals to think about for a while. I too have experienced the sooty tips for almost 3 years. I know they run rich, they like it rich. However, for the past week I have been running my new updated tune from Vince at Trifecta. (I did some data logging a couple weeks back while at the track.) This new tune was loaded last week Saturday, I have not seen the sooty tips since the new tune has been loaded. Now I have asked what Vince did with this new tune and found his answer interesting. I have not had a chance to data log again to check on those results, but plan to do so soon.

I remember you saying your timing was a bit high. Did he make another adjustment? Another member a while back claimed that Vince leaned out his tune, which I would think could lessen the sooty tips. Did he do that for you?

I just had my car datalogged a month or so ago, and even with sooty tips, there were no changes to my tune.