Has your perception changed of the V6 Camaro??

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Originally Posted by logan1080

But as the powerful v6 trend comes in, the 300 hp v6 might be old new in a couple years. We might start seeing a 350hp+ v6 as technology gets more advanced. likewise for the v8's. its hard to say. If your looking for a car you want to keep and not trade off or sell in a couple years with plenty of horse. go V8. If you want respective power,decent economy,a fair price tag, and not in for the long term, go with a v6.

Much wisdom in your words.

[Vash]

But if you look at history the 1st year vehicles are valuable. Not for power just because "I got one of the 1st 5th's every made" is part of the value. After a while it's more about the overall condition not just the HP.

In addition a base V6 can always be driven till you pay loan. Then you can pull out the V6 and install a GM V8. This car has mod city all over it. Nice room for roll bar. Nice tranny and diff etc etc.

[MerF]

What's the MSRP going to be on the 370Z or the new 350Z? how about the G37?

If it's close to $20k, then rgeat we have a valid comparison. I'm willing to bet it's barely below $30k though. Screw your comparison all to hell. Why not pitch the V6 against a Porsche if your only variable is # of cylinders and doors?

[thejbyrd]

Originally Posted by MajorTom

The new V6 bests that by 20 hp but the car still won't be as fast as his 1997. Even with all the new tech the Camaro gets. The LT-1 cars aren't the most amazing, but they still have this thing called torque and would most likely outrun the V6 Camaro.


On paper, the Camaro's V6 looks incredible. But considering it's weight it won't be incredibly fast. Whether it has 300 hp or not. And whether it's 300hp is impressive for the base model of a pony car or not. If it does their 5.9 0-60 that's great. But considering the performance of the V8s are about a second quicker (a second is a big deal when it comes to the 1/4 mile or 0-60) it's not going to blow away any of the pony cars. You may be able to keep up with them for a bit, but not smash any of them. Assuming of course their driver is at all competent.


Also, the 350Z, G37 and even the G35 do the 0-60 faster than the Camaro V6. Why are we saying the V6 Camaro will have 350Z performance? The new 350Z (while being quite a bit more expensive) is a great car and fast too. We recently saw a list of bone stock top 1/4 mile times and the fastest are in the low 13s. 13.2 and the like. Are you seriously thinking the Camaro will beat that? Not to mention the 350z also has a pretty well sorted chassis.


I'm a Camaro lover, but like I said in another thread: you should stop believing what you hope to be true and start believing what is likely to be true. And if you think it's likely that a V6 Camaro will out sprint a 350Z you need to reexamine your car knowledge and the facts that are right in front of you for that matter.

All that being said, I think the Camaro is impressive for a V6, but in the realm of sporty coupes, it's not going to be that impressive. I think it's praises will always be followed by the line "for a V6". It's pretty quick... for a V6. It's not bad... for a V6.

This is all in comparison the V8. And any other serious performance car out there.

Aren't we a little negative about the V6 Camaro? I mean, it's still a Camaro. Give the little guy a break.

[Vash]

Nissan are a nightmare under the hood. So many wires etc. Just aweful. Then after your warranty is over I hope you have a lot of money and time to kill. Cause working on that when it's older won't be as easy and economical as an older Gen 5.

[Mblock66]

You all need to pick one side of the comparison or the other lol. You can't say the new camaro is going to be a rocket and beat v8s with its 300 hp and then not have people compare it to all other commen cars this v6 will face in a day to day environment. Then turn around and play the price argument. It you want to argue that it will be a pretty quick car for mid 20's in price that is fair and I would back that. But then it ends there you can't then say because it is quick in that segment it bests like everything lol. This is where the g37 350z accord maxima argument comes in but then you don't like it again.

We are all here bc we share the love for the camaro but as I said and a someone else a few posts ago folks need to really be realistic about expectaions of this car. It isn't a class leader in power or performance. The ss will be ( for the moment).

[thejbyrd]

Originally Posted by Mblock66

You all need to pick one side of the comparison or the other lol. You can't say the new camaro is going to be a rocket and beat v8s with its 300 hp and then not have people compare it to all other commen cars this v6 will face in a day to day environment. Then turn around and play the price argument. It you want to argue that it will be a pretty quick car for mid 20's in price that is fair and I would back that. But then it ends there you can't then say because it is quick in that segment it bests like everything lol. This is where the g37 350z accord maxima argument comes in but then you don't like it again.

We are all here bc we share the love for the camaro but as I said and a someone else a few posts ago folks need to really be realistic about expectaions of this car. It isn't a class leader in power or performance. The ss will be ( for the moment).

Amen.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by MerF

What's the MSRP going to be on the 370Z or the new 350Z? how about the G37?

If it's close to $20k, then rgeat we have a valid comparison. I'm willing to bet it's barely below $30k though. Screw your comparison all to hell. Why not pitch the V6 against a Porsche if your only variable is # of cylinders and doors?

Ah, but Porsche's have the wrong engine config (flat vs V) and they like to put the engine in a funny spot. The new Nissan GT-R is a much better comparison, it even weighs roughly the same.

I can't believe I just said that . . .

[stovt001]

Originally Posted by drivingincamaro

i was just reading the spec sheet, why does the v6 take regular?

the v6 is aiming at younger people between 18-24. The ss is aiming between 25-68 IMO

heres my reasons for v6

insurance-
good amount of power-
price-

i am out of reasons but theres alot more

I'm feeling you exactly. I'm 21 now, and that lower entry price point and lower insurance costs look mighty tempting. Now originally I was looking only at the V8. My plan was to wait until 2012. In that year I'll turn 25 (lower insurance) and will have my Cobalt fully paid off. I'll fall right into that 25 age range you mentioned, and with 4 more years of savings and pay raises under my belt affording the V8 shouldn't be a problem. Then again, looking at how nice the V6 is, its tempting to get the Camaro V6 earlier. I think right now the one thing pushing me towards waiting and getting the SS is the idea that in a few years we stand a good chance of seeing a Gen V V8 and a DCT. Regardless of finances I want to wait a few years to see if those come out. And if I am able to afford the SS because I waited, well I'm certainly not going to penny-pinch and go for the V6.

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Originally Posted by stovt001

I think right now the one thing pushing me towards waiting and getting the SS is the idea that in a few years we stand a good chance of seeing a Gen V V8 and a DCT.

You really think so? I am the same age as you and I would wait if I knew you could get a DCT in the Camaro. I just don't see it though since GM hasn't even rolled them out in Cadillac's yet.

[Vash]

Just need a box of tools and an engine hoist.

Pull out the V6 and sell it on ebay lol. Then Slap in a 383 stroker and some longpipes. Some custom wheels.

BTW Anyone know if this V6 is 2 or 4 bolt mains?

[Mblock66]

Im not sure the suspension / trans / and rear are going to be the same in the V6 then in the SS. I wouldn't bet on that. So you would be putting a lot more stress on that V6 built then you think by just slapping a 383 in there. Not to mention needing new brakes etc etc.

It just isn't worth it. You will spend WAY over the few thousand it will cost you to get a clean 6.2 LS3 from the get go.

[Vash]

Yes but it gives an option to mod it after the note is paid off. This would really only be an option for someone that's gonna keep the car for a long tim.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by stovt001

I'm feeling you exactly. I'm 21 now, and that lower entry price point and lower insurance costs look mighty tempting. Now originally I was looking only at the V8. My plan was to wait until 2012. In that year I'll turn 25 (lower insurance) and will have my Cobalt fully paid off. I'll fall right into that 25 age range you mentioned, and with 4 more years of savings and pay raises under my belt affording the V8 shouldn't be a problem. Then again, looking at how nice the V6 is, its tempting to get the Camaro V6 earlier. I think right now the one thing pushing me towards waiting and getting the SS is the idea that in a few years we stand a good chance of seeing a Gen V V8 and a DCT. Regardless of finances I want to wait a few years to see if those come out. And if I am able to afford the SS because I waited, well I'm certainly not going to penny-pinch and go for the V6.

Ditto, though I'll be 25 in fall of 2010 so I'd probably buy a Camaro in spring of 2011. Oh and I don't care about a dual clutch tranny. But gen V engine