You may hate this thread, but I'm starting to HATE my Camaro!

[FenwickHockey65]

I kid you not, OP. I will drive to Montreal right now and pick up your Camaro.

The only way you're ever going to go "green" is if you get rid of all your cars, your house, your clothes, and ride a bicycle and live in the forest. Have fun with that.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by chevydude26

Lol at somebody tagging this as op needs a ****** replacement

[2Muchmark]

Originally Posted by macalot

Sounds like the OP already had lots of hate inside already and is spreading it around like fertilizer! Please take your hate somewhere else, we don't need it here.

To the OP: Now you say that you don't like the Camaro, however you started out HATING it. My how things change.

A few more threads like this will kill my desire to check out Camaro5 everyday.

This just makes me want to go jump into my ole '69 Z28 and open up the 4 barrel.

What is OP? Original poster? Me? Hate?

No you have me wrong. I'm not hating anyone, and I'm not trashing anyone at all. I'm just feeling guilty as hell... sorry if you're getting mad at my posts - I didn't intend to upset you.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by 2Muchmark

I am in the right forum because I am a Camaro owner. If its ok to talk about how much we love our babies, why isn't it ok to talk about resosideration of said love?

Here, I'll design "ihateandresentmycamarofordumbreasons.com" You can cry to your heart's content right there.

Your car is in no way responsible for the oil spill. BUT, if you want to feel like sh*t about it anyway, go ahead. Just don't expect us sane people to relate.

[mhood]

Green is happening with you or without you. It just makes sense. And by most any definition, a 426hp motor that gets 24mpg on the highway is a very green thing.

[MikeL]

Originally Posted by 2Muchmark

What is OP? Original poster? Me? Hate?

No you have me wrong. I'm not hating anyone, and I'm not trashing anyone at all. I'm just feeling guilty as hell... sorry if you're getting mad at my posts - I didn't intend to upset you.

Just a bit of advice. You're not gonna convince anyone on this forum of anything. I respect what you're doing and its admirable to possible give up something you care so much about. Remember this is the internet.. its pointless to argue with anyone here lol.

[squat]

Wow, lots of tough guys in this thread.

I'll say this, we should absolutely be switching off of oil. I'm sorry tough buys, but sometime in the future you're camaro is going to have an electric motor. But don't worry, that'll still be decades away.

Realistically we don't have the ability to switch to electric cars right now. I've done a lot of research on the EV topic and come to find out that if electric cars like the Volt and Leaf become popular (still less than 5% of global sales) we'll run out of lithium for the batteries in 2020. Then there's the whole 'it's a really toxic process to mine the lithium and process it into material that could be used for batteries' thing.

We could probably recover most of the lithium in the car battery packs if they were recycled, so that may extend the 2020 date, but no one knows for sure how much we could reuse since we're not testing it yet.

We need a kind of battery revolution for electric cars to become plausible, and it'll take a few decades but then we'll get it. For now we can all help by trying to use less gas (the recession sure helps) - by yourself you don't make a difference, but as a whole we can do a lot.

[n!ght r!der]

+ = + ??

[Pumpkin1LT]

Originally Posted by cdigiovanni

boo hoo!

pull your paints up MARY! no need to vent about HP rating and what 20g's gets you!
stop typing sell your camaro to youthful person that whats to burn rubber, cherp gears on the highways! race everything on the road (and win!)

gas kicks ass! electric is for housewives or you know what?!?!

Not ALL housewives my Cammy friend! I'll take my gasoline driven 312HP Cam thankyou....with the kiddos in the back..on my way to go grocery shopping.

[2Muchmark]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I kid you not, OP. I will drive to Montreal right now and pick up your Camaro.

The only way you're ever going to "green" is if you get rid of all your cars, your house, your clothes, and ride a bicycle and live in the forest. Have fun with that.

You know, I may just go for it.

Send me an email with your contact info. I'll take some pictures and send them to you. It has about 7,000 kilometers on it. Not winter driven of course, and all original (no mods of any kind). The left back wheel has a scratch though (I scraped it against a curb). I own the car outright (no financing or lease) so I could be ready to make a deal.

[mulletman]

Look for the Leaf to be on the ground this fall.

[MikeL]

Lets not forget Hydrogen vehicles. That could end all of these problems.. hopefully lol.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by MikeL

I never said I didn't use oil, or I wont use it. We could probably argue all day and both think we are correct so we can save our selfs that time. All energy systems have their drawbacks, even the most green ones.

It's all good. Just a friendly talk about energy. I do believe we need something new ,but only so we don't have to get our energy from people that don't like us. To me the "geen" energies that we have today are just a political ploy. There are other things that would work better that are not popular so they don't invest in them. I'm in the energy business and can see first hand how this game works. It's all about power and money and not saving our enviroment.

[2Muchmark]

Originally Posted by MikeL

Lets not forget Hydrogen vehicles. That could end all of these problems.. hopefully lol.

Not sure about this... the infrastructure required is huge, and the carbon footprint to make Hydrogen is huge too. Are we really trading up if we go to Hydrogen? (President Bush was behind it so I'm pretty sure there's a little Haliburton reach-around going on there somewhere..)