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ShnOmac · 04-18-2013, 11:34 PM

I like!

OldScoolCamaro · 04-19-2013, 06:02 PM

....nice! Give us some more "options"...

Number 3 · 04-19-2013, 06:27 PM

LOL just noticed the LS9 on the hood bulge. I think you could call it Fred and no one care at that point what IROC stood for.

LOWDOWN · 04-19-2013, 06:54 PM

I'd
REALLY
ORDER an LS9
CAMARO ?!

Steve, meet Fred!

I'm not sure about that "Berlinetta-inspired" tail light panel/license surround...

Blueclyde · 04-19-2013, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

I'd
REALLY
ORDER an LS9
CAMARO ?!

Steve, meet Fred!

I'm not sure about that "Berlinetta-inspired" tail light panel/license surround...

I'd probably buy one too. Something about that LS9 that I really like. I think that engine in the ZL1 would have been perfect. I for one would have happily forked over the extra $$.

OldScoolCamaro · 04-19-2013, 07:42 PM

...the devil's in the details they say.....

LOWDOWN · 04-19-2013, 08:06 PM

Well, if they have the wherewithal to assemble more LS7'd Camaros, maybe a Final Edition ZL1-R with an LS9 isn't alchemy after all...

Number 3 · 04-19-2013, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueclyde

I'd probably buy one too. Something about that LS9 that I really like. I think that engine in the ZL1 would have been perfect. I for one would have happily forked over the extra $$.

How much more? I think an LS9 was $25000 from GMPP. So that's a 10 to 15 grand premium for only 50 HP

LOWDOWN · 04-19-2013, 08:22 PM

Sounds about right. Hell, the first one will get charity a $million from Mr. Hendrick, alone...

Seriously, some Z/28 elements, some ZR1 "stir", keep all the speakers in it this time, $500/horse X 58 horses (throw in the rims/tires/brakes/seats/glass)...VOILA!

ZL1-R Final Edition!

69, only...and only 69 of 'em.

And the -R stands for 'ROIDS!

Priced an "aftermarket LS9" lately?! With a Dewey Dickem and Howe warranty?

Blueclyde · 04-19-2013, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

How much more? I think an LS9 was $25000 from GMPP. So that's a 10 to 15 grand premium for only 50 HP

It's a fair question. It's more than the 50 HP, it's the forged internals. I'm not sure I'd have paid $10K more but probably $5K to $7K.

Blueclyde · 04-19-2013, 08:40 PM

...and further, the ZL1 is an awesome car for the money. I really love it. But, it is heavy and after driving it for a season I feel it could use an extra 50-80 HP. I now find myself seriously pondering putting a blower pulley on my car. I've not been overly impressed with the aftermarket "tuning" (I refer to it as calibration) process. These guys don't really understand what they are doing. I know a thing or two about engines, combustion and calibrations. These tuners in most cases aren't formally trained in engine calibration or combustion analysis. They just basically wing it.

So, it's about $2500 for a pulley, CAI and dyno cal. I'd gladly pay double that for the same thing from the factory that is backed by warranty. I touch my LSA and my warranty is out the window.

I realize that I may be in the minority in my thinking here.

OldScoolCamaro · 04-19-2013, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueclyde

...and further, the ZL1 is an awesome car for the money. I really love it. But, it is heavy and after driving it for a season I feel it could use an extra 50-80 HP. I now find myself seriously pondering putting a blower pulley on my car. I've not been overly impressed with the aftermarket "tuning" (I refer to it as calibration) process. These guys don't really understand what they are doing. I know a thing or two about engines, combustion and calibrations. These tuners in most cases aren't formally trained in engine calibration or combustion analysis. They just basically wing it.

So, it's about $2500 for a pulley, CAI and dyno cal. I'd gladly pay double that for the same thing from the factory that is backed by warranty. I touch my LSA and my warranty is out the window.

I realize that I may be in the minority in my thinking here.

....no, not alone. I begged earlier, as well as others, for a stage 2 factory upgrade. It does need more HP due to it's weight, it's close,....somewhat underpowered with obvious expandability and room for growth but it's not quite there. There is always room left for the aftermarket, but wouldn't it be nice if Chevy kept that inhouse once in awhile?

LOWDOWN · 04-19-2013, 09:19 PM

If you add a TVS2300, upgrade the i/c, build more boost...with LSA internals...you'll be a-wishin' you had a -9 instead of an -A...

...and some of those Z/28 dietary supplements (including the lighter/shorter wheel/tire combo and c-c brakes) would be mighty fine, as well...

Blueclyde · 04-19-2013, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

If you add a TVS2300, upgrade the i/c, build more boost...with LSA internals...you'll be a-wishin' you had a -9 instead of an -A...

...and some of those Z/28 dietary supplements (including the lighter/shorter wheel/tire combo and c-c brakes) would be mighty fine, as well...

My point exactly.... Again, I love the car. It's fast but should be faster. I don't need the c-c brakes for my use but the extra HP I would love.

LOWDOWN, would you modify the -7 in the Z/28?

04-19-2013, 06:02 PM	#12616
OldScoolCamaro Drives: Camaro's, always have, always will. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Home of the brave Posts: 4,851	....nice! Give us some more "options"... __________________ In Scott We Trust...all others must show proof.

04-19-2013, 06:27 PM	#12617
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,307 View My Garage	LOL just noticed the LS9 on the hood bulge. I think you could call it Fred and no one care at that point what IROC stood for. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

04-19-2013, 07:42 PM	#12620
OldScoolCamaro Drives: Camaro's, always have, always will. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Home of the brave Posts: 4,851	...the devil's in the details they say..... __________________ In Scott We Trust...all others must show proof.

04-19-2013, 08:22 PM	#12623
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	Sounds about right. Hell, the first one will get charity a $million from Mr. Hendrick, alone... Seriously, some Z/28 elements, some ZR1 "stir", keep all the speakers in it this time, $500/horse X 58 horses (throw in the rims/tires/brakes/seats/glass)...VOILA! ZL1-R Final Edition! 69, only...and only 69 of 'em. And the -R stands for 'ROIDS! Priced an "aftermarket LS9" lately?! With a Dewey Dickem and Howe warranty? Last edited by LOWDOWN; 04-19-2013 at 08:44 PM.

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04-19-2013, 06:54 PM	#12618
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	I'd REALLY ORDER an LS9 CAMARO ?! Steve, meet Fred! I'm not sure about that "Berlinetta-inspired" tail light panel/license surround...

04-19-2013, 08:06 PM	#12621
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	Well, if they have the wherewithal to assemble more LS7'd Camaros, maybe a Final Edition ZL1-R with an LS9 isn't alchemy after all...

04-19-2013, 08:40 PM	#12625
Blueclyde Drives: 2023 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,717	...and further, the ZL1 is an awesome car for the money. I really love it. But, it is heavy and after driving it for a season I feel it could use an extra 50-80 HP. I now find myself seriously pondering putting a blower pulley on my car. I've not been overly impressed with the aftermarket "tuning" (I refer to it as calibration) process. These guys don't really understand what they are doing. I know a thing or two about engines, combustion and calibrations. These tuners in most cases aren't formally trained in engine calibration or combustion analysis. They just basically wing it. So, it's about $2500 for a pulley, CAI and dyno cal. I'd gladly pay double that for the same thing from the factory that is backed by warranty. I touch my LSA and my warranty is out the window. I realize that I may be in the minority in my thinking here.

04-19-2013, 09:19 PM	#12627
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	If you add a TVS2300, upgrade the i/c, build more boost...with LSA internals...you'll be a-wishin' you had a -9 instead of an -A... ...and some of those Z/28 dietary supplements (including the lighter/shorter wheel/tire combo and c-c brakes) would be mighty fine, as well...