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Number 3 · 12-07-2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

And it's probably supercharged.

If it is, wouldn't you assume GM would have worked some issues out regarding heat soak before they put it in their track god? I can't imagine they wouldn't address this if it were true.

PYROLYSIS · 12-07-2013, 12:40 PM

I'm not worried about heat soak I just think the Z06 should be NA. With all the "hallowed" Z/28 talk it doesn't make sense to turn around and supercharge the Z06. The other disappointment is that this pretty much seals the deal for not having a high horsepower NA motor from the factory this coming generation. If they were going to make one it would have to go in the Z06 which appears to be not happening.

SEVEN-OH JOE · 12-07-2013, 01:16 PM

Don't fall on your swords just yet.

Number 3 · 12-07-2013, 01:35 PM

Forced induction doesn't bother me on principle. If it delivers on the track with no compromises, the fact that it's got a turbo or SCer doesn't get in the way for me. Maybe I've just had too many of my last few cars either TC or SC.

Besides they have the LT1 so close to the LS7 anyway they would have to go even higher in HP. And as much as I have serious love for the LS7, everything I ever heard was it was already maxed out for a small block for displacement and HP. Yes I know you can cam it do more to it aftermarket, but for GM specs I think that was about as much as we'll see. Even the Z/28 didn't pick up much.

My biggest concern in Turbo or SC would simply be the weight penalty. The C7 already has the aluminium frame which was a big part of the difference between the C6 and the Z06. There isn't as much to get out to make the upcoming Z06 weigh what the C6 Z06 weighed. So I suspect the new Z06 will weigh maybe 100 or 150 pounds or so more than the last one.

I am excited to see what the specs are and what engine it will have.

Bhobbs · 12-07-2013, 02:12 PM

I don't have a problem with supercharging or turbocharging but I don't believe they belong on a Z06 or Z/28. Like you said, the Stingray already had an aluminum chassis so there wouldn't be a big weight loss, if any. Now you add a bunch of weight on the nose of the car.

2cnd chance · 12-09-2013, 11:47 PM

Go Bears!

Scarrzz · 12-10-2013, 05:42 AM

No matter what is inside, when all is said and done, it will be a C7, and will almost certainly surpass the C6 in every category.

Just let that sink in for a moment.

OldScoolCamaro · 12-10-2013, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Go Bears!

...DA Bears lit up Dallas last night woooooohooooo! That McCown kid is pretty good! Carnac sees a future with him in that franchise!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarrzz

No matter what is inside, when all is said and done, it will be a C7, and will almost certainly surpass the C6 in every category.

Just let that sink in for a moment.

...it's a slick car Scarrzz...you got to go see it up close and personal... and literally wrap your hands around it. It's awesome.

Bhobbs · 12-10-2013, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarrzz

No matter what is inside, when all is said and done, it will be a C7, and will almost certainly surpass the C6 in every category.

Just let that sink in for a moment.

I have no doubt it will be sick but if it's supercharged, it doesn't deserve the Z06 badge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

...DA Bears lit up Dallas last night woooooohooooo! That McCown kid is pretty good! Carnac sees a future with him in that franchise!

...it's a slick car Scarrzz...you got to go see it up close and personal... and literally wrap your hands around it. It's awesome.

You've seen the C7 Z06?

OldScoolCamaro · 12-10-2013, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I have no doubt it will be sick but if it's supercharged, it doesn't deserve the Z06 badge.

You've seen the C7 Z06?

..only the Stingray and a loaded out Z51 model. I sat in the Stingray.....got a hands on feel.

PYROLYSIS · 12-10-2013, 09:58 PM

I still haven't seen a C7 up close. Looking foward to it.

2cnd chance · 12-10-2013, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

...DA Bears lit up Dallas last night woooooohooooo! That McCown kid is pretty good! Carnac sees a future with him in that franchise!.

If they only had a better defense! Yes McCown is amazing!

OldScoolCamaro · 12-10-2013, 10:18 PM

..Bears not too shabby on D against pass and rush, overall 5th and 17th...I am elated that the Boys lost...so sorry for Jerry Jones...he's a narcissist. And he's killing his own franchise playing a GM.

2cnd chance · 12-10-2013, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

..Bears not too shabby on D against pass and rush, overall 5th and 17th...I am elated that the Boys lost...so sorry for Jerry Jones...he's a narcissist. And he's killing his own franchise playing a GM.

I feel the same way about the Cowboys and JJ.

12-07-2013, 12:40 PM	#13876
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	I'm not worried about heat soak I just think the Z06 should be NA. With all the "hallowed" Z/28 talk it doesn't make sense to turn around and supercharge the Z06. The other disappointment is that this pretty much seals the deal for not having a high horsepower NA motor from the factory this coming generation. If they were going to make one it would have to go in the Z06 which appears to be not happening. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

12-07-2013, 01:35 PM	#13878
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,307 View My Garage	Forced induction doesn't bother me on principle. If it delivers on the track with no compromises, the fact that it's got a turbo or SCer doesn't get in the way for me. Maybe I've just had too many of my last few cars either TC or SC. Besides they have the LT1 so close to the LS7 anyway they would have to go even higher in HP. And as much as I have serious love for the LS7, everything I ever heard was it was already maxed out for a small block for displacement and HP. Yes I know you can cam it do more to it aftermarket, but for GM specs I think that was about as much as we'll see. Even the Z/28 didn't pick up much. My biggest concern in Turbo or SC would simply be the weight penalty. The C7 already has the aluminium frame which was a big part of the difference between the C6 and the Z06. There isn't as much to get out to make the upcoming Z06 weigh what the C6 Z06 weighed. So I suspect the new Z06 will weigh maybe 100 or 150 pounds or so more than the last one. I am excited to see what the specs are and what engine it will have. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

12-09-2013, 11:47 PM	#13880
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	Any Bears Fans Out There? Go Bears! __________________

12-10-2013, 05:42 AM	#13881
Scarrzz No Fear-No Limits- Camaro Drives: '13 ZL1 or Suzuki Hayabusa Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Louisiana, CO, GA, TX, etc. Posts: 2,033 View My Garage	No matter what is inside, when all is said and done, it will be a C7, and will almost certainly surpass the C6 in every category. Just let that sink in for a moment. __________________ . __________________________________ ................................................The Faithful are Watching.

12-10-2013, 09:58 PM	#13885
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	I still haven't seen a C7 up close. Looking foward to it. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

12-07-2013, 01:16 PM	#13877
SEVEN-OH JOE Account Suspended Drives: some to distraction Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 627	Don't fall on your swords just yet.

12-07-2013, 02:12 PM	#13879
Bhobbs Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 6,990	I don't have a problem with supercharging or turbocharging but I don't believe they belong on a Z06 or Z/28. Like you said, the Stingray already had an aluminum chassis so there wouldn't be a big weight loss, if any. Now you add a bunch of weight on the nose of the car.

12-10-2013, 10:18 PM	#13887
OldScoolCamaro Drives: Camaro's, always have, always will. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Home of the brave Posts: 4,851	..Bears not too shabby on D against pass and rush, overall 5th and 17th...I am elated that the Boys lost...so sorry for Jerry Jones...he's a narcissist. And he's killing his own franchise playing a GM. __________________ In Scott We Trust...all others must show proof.

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