Is there any point in modding ? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Dmpsix · 03-01-2016, 03:18 PM

Sorry, didn't have enough room to fit it all in.

But is there any point in modding an SS anymore? With the prices of ZL1 being in the high 30's low 40's and some higher mileage ones in the 35-38 range. What's the point in modding an SS that's roughly $10k cheaper?

Sure that $10k can net you more HP than a ZL1, but it's a fkin ZL1.

Much better drivetrain, comes supercharged, better suspension, exhaust note, etc.

I mean if I wanted to cam and supercharge my SS... looking at an easy $10k in parts alone, labor an extra $3k with dyno tune.

Even if it was a flat $10k, I still have to buy the better suspension and brakes to go along with it to make it work and put the power to the ground. Yeah I might outrun a ZL1, but it's still not a Z and still not nearly as daily driveable.

I mean don't you guys push darn near 600rwhp with just CAI, Headers and a tune?

What are your thoughts on this, Z guys?

jayno20 · 03-01-2016, 03:35 PM

Even at the higher 60ish price range I still never understood modding an SS if you could afford a ZL1...

So with that being said... No, IMO there is no reason to mod an SS.

Dmpsix · 03-01-2016, 03:46 PM

Yeah I mean check out this quote I got a cam install... I mean granted I'm an L99 which requires extra work..
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...83#post8881483

I just don't see the point in modding the SS anymore unless it's there for sentimental value or something.

KaBoom1701 · 03-01-2016, 04:14 PM

This is the reason I skipped the SS when I went from my V6 to the ZL1...

ZYBORG · 03-01-2016, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmpsix

Sorry, didn't have enough room to fit it all in.

But is there any point in modding an SS anymore? With the prices of ZL1 being in the high 30's low 40's and some higher mileage ones in the 35-38 range. What's the point in modding an SS that's roughly $10k cheaper?

Sure that $10k can net you more HP than a ZL1, but it's a fkin ZL1.

Much better drivetrain, comes supercharged, better suspension, exhaust note, etc.

I mean if I wanted to cam and supercharge my SS... looking at an easy $10k in parts alone, labor an extra $3k with dyno tune.

Even if it was a flat $10k, I still have to buy the better suspension and brakes to go along with it to make it work and put the power to the ground. Yeah I might outrun a ZL1, but it's still not a Z and still not nearly as daily driveable.

I mean don't you guys push darn near 600rwhp with just CAI, Headers and a tune?

What are your thoughts on this, Z guys?

Why mod an SS? Why not? Everyone looks to improve on what they have.

Its the hobby.

Its also greatly rewarding to beat a higher trim, higher performing vehicle, with the work you have put into your car.

370zyzfr1 · 03-01-2016, 04:29 PM

I guess it all comes down to how happy you are with the SS. If power (and performance) is really imoortant then it would make more sense to trade up. But if you are happy with the SS, adding a few smile mods won't hurt. But once you start getting into major engine work then it becomes less worth it.

With 5-7k in mods you can add 125 hp with a zl1. If you can grab a used one while the price is right you can't go wrong.

JMT · 03-01-2016, 04:55 PM

Some enjoy the mod thing! Keeps things fresh.
Others will enjoy the higher up model more.
No right or wrong answer here. IMO

hammdo · 03-01-2016, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZYBORG

Why mod an SS? Why not? Everyone looks to improve on what they have.

Its the hobby.

Its also greatly rewarding to beat a higher trim, higher performing vehicle, with the work you have put into your car.

^^^
This -- personal taste and reasons. I got a great deal on my 11 2SS in 14 -- 21K -- so I had fully intended to mod the 2SS.

I made it my own -- which was what I wanted to do -- LOVE the ZL1 and sure, I could have bought one, but then, knowing me, I'd mod that too..

This was more fun for me to do on the 2SS -- it was my personal preference to do the mods... Outside of the tune, solid subframe bushings, and gears in the diff, I've done all the work myself and enjoyed it.

To each their own...

Do what you want and enjoy the journey -- its a learning process...

-Don

HDRDTD · 03-01-2016, 06:54 PM

Of course another thing to consider is re-sale value. A highly modded SS with the same performance as a ZL1 will be worth much less than a ZL1.

Shark72 · 03-01-2016, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmpsix

Sorry, didn't have enough room to fit it all in.

But is there any point in modding an SS anymore? With the prices of ZL1 being in the high 30's low 40's and some higher mileage ones in the 35-38 range. What's the point in modding an SS that's roughly $10k cheaper?

Sure that $10k can net you more HP than a ZL1, but it's a fkin ZL1.

Much better drivetrain, comes supercharged, better suspension, exhaust note, etc.

I mean if I wanted to cam and supercharge my SS... looking at an easy $10k in parts alone, labor an extra $3k with dyno tune.

Even if it was a flat $10k, I still have to buy the better suspension and brakes to go along with it to make it work and put the power to the ground. Yeah I might outrun a ZL1, but it's still not a Z and still not nearly as daily driveable.

I mean don't you guys push darn near 600rwhp with just CAI, Headers and a tune?

What are your thoughts on this, Z guys?

The only real point is if it's not a ZL1, it will never be one! A clone is a clone, not everyone wants a clone.

rontammy0 · 03-01-2016, 08:37 PM

I know there are alot of faster cars then mine around. But the fact that i bought the car I've always wanted right down to the colour is important to me. My boltons are typical ....im new to the drag strip. I don't want to be the guy we all know that's says it's pushing 450 hp......ever had it dynoed? No but I'm sure it making that kind of power. Or the ever popular it should run low 12's at the strip. When people ask I can show them slips and my dyno sheet. My car is exactly the way I want it.

Shark72 · 03-01-2016, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rontammy0

I know there are alot of faster cars then mine around. But the fact that i bought the car I've always wanted right down to the colour is important to me. My boltons are typical ....im new to the drag strip. I don't want to be the guy we all know that's says it's pushing 450 hp......ever had it dynoed? No but I'm sure it making that kind of power. Or the ever popular it should run low 12's at the strip. When people ask I can show them slips and my dyno sheet. My car is exactly the way I want it.

That's all that matters!

Redlineviper · 03-01-2016, 08:50 PM

Kudos to rontammy. I will say at least the SS guys are modding their cars and making them their own. Out of all the members on here I would say less than 100 have serious mods and make 600 or more whp. JMHO.

jrhagen · 03-01-2016, 09:09 PM

Why would anybody buy a high performance sports car with an auto trans?

03-01-2016, 03:18 PM	#1
Dmpsix Drives: Black L99 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,862	Is there any point in modding ? Sorry, didn't have enough room to fit it all in. But is there any point in modding an SS anymore? With the prices of ZL1 being in the high 30's low 40's and some higher mileage ones in the 35-38 range. What's the point in modding an SS that's roughly $10k cheaper? Sure that $10k can net you more HP than a ZL1, but it's a fkin ZL1. Much better drivetrain, comes supercharged, better suspension, exhaust note, etc. I mean if I wanted to cam and supercharge my SS... looking at an easy $10k in parts alone, labor an extra $3k with dyno tune. Even if it was a flat $10k, I still have to buy the better suspension and brakes to go along with it to make it work and put the power to the ground. Yeah I might outrun a ZL1, but it's still not a Z and still not nearly as daily driveable. I mean don't you guys push darn near 600rwhp with just CAI, Headers and a tune? What are your thoughts on this, Z guys?

03-01-2016, 04:14 PM	#4
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	This is the reason I skipped the SS when I went from my V6 to the ZL1... __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

03-01-2016, 08:50 PM	#13
Redlineviper Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Orlando Posts: 936	Kudos to rontammy. I will say at least the SS guys are modding their cars and making them their own. Out of all the members on here I would say less than 100 have serious mods and make 600 or more whp. JMHO. __________________ 2013 A6 ZL1

03-01-2016, 03:35 PM	#2
jayno20 Go fast, please. Drives: 2019 Corvette ZR1 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,471 View My Garage	Even at the higher 60ish price range I still never understood modding an SS if you could afford a ZL1... So with that being said... No, IMO there is no reason to mod an SS.

03-01-2016, 03:46 PM	#3
Dmpsix Drives: Black L99 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,862	Yeah I mean check out this quote I got a cam install... I mean granted I'm an L99 which requires extra work.. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...83#post8881483 I just don't see the point in modding the SS anymore unless it's there for sentimental value or something.

03-01-2016, 04:29 PM	#6
370zyzfr1 Drives: 2014 Camaro Zl1 Tripple Black! Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 383	I guess it all comes down to how happy you are with the SS. If power (and performance) is really imoortant then it would make more sense to trade up. But if you are happy with the SS, adding a few smile mods won't hurt. But once you start getting into major engine work then it becomes less worth it. With 5-7k in mods you can add 125 hp with a zl1. If you can grab a used one while the price is right you can't go wrong.

03-01-2016, 04:55 PM	#7
JMT Drives: 2013 1LT Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Panama City Beach, FL Posts: 703 View My Garage	Some enjoy the mod thing! Keeps things fresh. Others will enjoy the higher up model more. No right or wrong answer here. IMO

03-01-2016, 06:54 PM	#9
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	Of course another thing to consider is re-sale value. A highly modded SS with the same performance as a ZL1 will be worth much less than a ZL1.

03-01-2016, 08:37 PM	#11
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	I know there are alot of faster cars then mine around. But the fact that i bought the car I've always wanted right down to the colour is important to me. My boltons are typical ....im new to the drag strip. I don't want to be the guy we all know that's says it's pushing 450 hp......ever had it dynoed? No but I'm sure it making that kind of power. Or the ever popular it should run low 12's at the strip. When people ask I can show them slips and my dyno sheet. My car is exactly the way I want it.

03-01-2016, 09:09 PM	#14
jrhagen Banned Drives: Camaro Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: USA Posts: 2,701	Why would anybody buy a high performance sports car with an auto trans?