2013 GT500 new certified numbers 662HP and 630TQ?

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by djsnoflake

The GT500 is going to beat the best the 5th Gen Camaro has to offer. The numbers don't L..... what's THAT?




.........................I love the ZL-1. All hail GM..........braaaaaaiiiiinnnnnsss

Originally Posted by 69bossnine

That's only 2% of a larger physics equation that would take up the entire blackboard, but I'll say this...

I've never seen a car that's out-gunned by that much in the hp/weight ratio ever overcome that...

But we shall soon see, won't we?

You would have to load 900 pounds of ballast into the 2013 Shelby in order to even-up the power/weight ratios. Just imagine heading out to test and tune, and three fat-ass 300 lb guys ask you if they can "ride along" down the track... That's the dilemma the Camaro faces, magnetic fluid and software helping best it can...

Well said....well said.

[BlackSS_13]

sorry to go off topic but i was reading this article and found this very interesting:
FORD will offer a 2013 Mustang Roush package offering 3 stages(1,2,and 3) but the one that caught my attention is STAGE 3 saying -"Stage 3 puts a supercharged 5.0-liter V-8 rated for 565 hp and 505 lb-ft of torque under the hood. The forced induction comes courtesy of an R2300 supercharger featuring Eaton’s TVS (Twin Vortices Series) patented technology." WILL THIS BE 1/4 COMPETITION WITH THE ZL1? and here is the link to the article guys.: http://blog.caranddriver.com/2013-ro...te-april-2012/

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by Ronith

With you driving, or?

I think, 9 times out of 10, this will be a driver's race...statistics mean squat when the tree, and the green flap, drops...

And you Ford guyz KNOW it...

[69bossnine]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

First of all, 69, we're talkin' 'bout showroom cars...NO mods...

Second of all, alloy blocks were/are NEVER/NOT allowed in NASCAR...your comparitor...

Third (or, if you're new to the country, "turd"...), the BOSS 9 stock, on the street in '69, was an unmitigated SLUG! Bob Brown, from the East Coast, planned to Super Stock race one...until he got it and, as written in SS&DI back in the day, barely broke 13's stock...on F60s with far more tread than the F70-14s on all ZL1s, save two. Fact.

ZL1s, with slicks and headers, ran 11's...Earl Wade only wishes that few mods would have netted THOSE results, way back when...

Again, I was just touching upon tire width... Nothing less, nothing more, NOTHING to do with all that rigamarole typed above, and the fact that we both wandered off into the woods talking about apples/oranges 1969 limited-build cars doesn't mean that I'm trying to segue that into a forecast of how these NEW cars will fare with mods...

Although one obvious thing comes to mind... Forged internals..

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by BlackSS_13

sorry to go off topic but i was reading this article and found this very interesting:
FORD will offer a 2013 Mustang Roush package offering 3 stages(1,2,and 3) but the one that caught my attention is STAGE 3 saying -"Stage 3 puts a supercharged 5.0-liter V-8 rated for 565 hp and 505 lb-ft of torque under the hood. The forced induction comes courtesy of an R2300 supercharger featuring Eaton’s TVS (Twin Vortices Series) patented technology." WILL THIS BE 1/4 COMPETITION WITH THE ZL1? and here is the link to the article guys.: http://blog.caranddriver.com/2013-ro...te-april-2012/

That's One-Eyed Jack, tha Kat in the Hat, makin' some more GOLD by ruining a BOSS. Car will weigh almost the same as the ChiliWagon...why not save your dough and buy a Shyster...er...Shelby...

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

I think, 9 times out of 10, this will be a driver's race...statistics mean squat when the tree, and the green flap, drops...

And you Ford guyz KNOW it...

Is this reverse trolling?

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by 69bossnine

Again, I was just touching upon tire width... Nothing less, nothing more, NOTHING to do with all that rigamarole typed above, and the fact that we both wandered off into the woods talking about apples/oranges 1969 limited-build cars doesn't mean that I'm trying to segue that into a forecast of how these NEW cars will fare with mods...
..

You apparently missed the best point of post #38...

The more things change, the more they stay the same!

The same Dearborn drivel was espouced, winter 69, and how did that turn out?

Line 'em up in a paddock, and let's have at it, boys...

[BlackSS_13]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

That's One-Eyed Jack, tha Kat in the Hat, makin' some more GOLD by ruining a BOSS. Car will weigh almost the same as the ChiliWagon...why not save your dough and buy a Shyster...er...Shelby...

your right just wondering all the commotion if that GT"roush" was able to beat the zl1 but anyways i would rather get Corvette Z06

[djsnoflake]

How long till the 2013's get tested, 4-5 months?

At least right now, there is some speculation, but after that, the only argument the 5th Gen will have left is "It looks better."

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by djsnoflake

How long till the 2013's get tested, 4-5 months?

At least right now, there is some speculation, but after that, the only argument the 5th Gen will have left is "It looks better."

" Keep the Faith"

[69bossnine]

I've been watching bone-stock 2011-2012 GT500's on their stock tires run low-low 12's at 118-119 at Gaineville Raceway, so I've gotta think that the "driver's race" is against the 11-12 GT500 stock vs. stock. And these are real-world runs, not bench-racing as we're doing currently with the 2013.

And I HIGHLY DOUBT that Ford's claims for the 2013 Shelby is "Dearborn drivel"... Ford's been under-rating for years now, even the Ford GT was putting over 500hp to the rear wheels on Dynojets with a factory 550hp rating. I doubt they're going to put their foots in their mouths now..

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by 69bossnine

I've been watching bone-stock 2011-2012 GT500's on their stock tires run low-low 12's at 118-119 at Gaineville Raceway, so I've gotta think that the "driver's race" is against the 11-12 GT500 stock vs. stock. And these are real-world runs, not bench-racing as we're doing currently with the 2013.

And I HIGHLY DOUBT that Ford's claims for the 2013 Shelby is "Dearborn drivel"... Ford's been under-rating for years now, even the Ford GT was putting over 500hp to the rear wheels on Dynojets with a factory 550hp rating. I doubt they're going to put their foots in their mouths now..

...like they did a dozen years' ago...385 hp, many of which fled the shed...

And BTW, what was the GT's number @ VIR? 4/10ths on a Z06? TWICE the dough? Now THERE was some Ford Value...

[djsnoflake]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

" Keep the Faith"

The only faith I have left is in a team that has consistently "Done it right."

Team Corvette.

C7 Z06 in 2014-15 for this guy.

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

...like they did a dozen years' ago...385 hp, many of which fled the shed...

You do realize this is 2012 correct?

You do also realize that the GM boys are the ones doing all the shit talking this go round correct?

What are you going to say when these cars line up and the outcome is not as you project? Do tell......

Originally Posted by djsnoflake

The only faith I have left is in a team that has consistently "Done it right."

Team Corvette.

C7 Z06 in 2014-15 for this guy.

Smart man